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« on: Wednesday, August 11, 2010, 22:40:17 »

Seems Capello won't be picking him again for England.Due to age and injury i can understand why but anyone else think it's a bit cuntish that a bloke with 115 caps for his country has to find out from a interview Capello did after tonights game that he won't be playing for England again.

I know and understand people don't like/rate the bloke but putting that aside it's not a very decent way to deal with it is it?

As i have said i have backed Capello but his man managment seems to be very poor when it comes to these types of things.
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« Reply #1 on: Wednesday, August 11, 2010, 22:43:44 »

He didn't say he won't be picking him again, he said he won't be an england regular, as Capello wants to build a squad with younger players which is fair enough. Capello also stated that he hopes beckham will be fit enough to play one more game at wembely to say farewell to the fans, which is again a decent gesture and more than most england players would receive.

I like david beckham. He has made the odd foolish decision, and with the benefit of hindsight the MLS chapter clearly didn't work, but becks is obviosuly a man who loves playing for his country. He was never the most talented, but his work rate was something else
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« Reply #2 on: Wednesday, August 11, 2010, 22:45:46 »

In view of the 115 caps and the fact he hasn't retired and wants to play on then it should have been face to face. I was a big fan of Capello's but it looks like man management is not his forte. I see we can all praise Gerrard now that the pressure is off.
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« Reply #3 on: Wednesday, August 11, 2010, 23:11:38 »

Maybe Capello has already told Beckham this. I'm sure Beckham understands that younger players need experience before big competitions so they should get the call up from now on.

I think it was tonight Gerrard realised he does actually care about England - maybe that's because he was captain within his own country, but I doubt he's ever reacted to two goals as much as he did tonight.

Back to Beckham...when he's fit could we get him on loan?...I quite like the way he looked in a suit :gay:.
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« Reply #4 on: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 00:31:17 »

Capello is a bit like a broken record when it comes to Beckham.

At Real Madrid when Beckham signed for LA Galaxy he said he wouldn't play for them again, he did. When Beckham was at LA Galaxy he said something similar - that he wouldn't pick Beckham for England unless he proved he was still up to it (with the suggestion he didn't think he was), but he ended up picking him still and would have taken him to the WC as a player.

I think we'll be seeing Beckham picked for England again.
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« Reply #5 on: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 06:47:35 »

And he deserves to be seen again. He's the type of player all international players should be. Willing to play for the country until he can no longer play football. (Not retiring because you find not being picked for your country humiliating and damaging for your ego.)
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« Reply #6 on: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 06:48:59 »

Beckham still is the most influential player England has and actually brings some leadership to the pitch something we clearly lacked in south Africa. I am convinced he would have got everyone working together.  The term world class is used a lot but beckham truly is world class in every sense. The team and fans get a lift when beckham comes on. A player who has defied the odds and proved people wrong time and time again! A player who actually wears the England shirt with pride and would play for his country for free. Ok he us past his best but beckham is still class and we will be a weaker team with him excluded.
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« Reply #7 on: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 09:21:20 »

Did i miss us wnning a major competition when he was captain then.?
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« Reply #8 on: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 09:25:26 »

beckham has been passed it for a while now.doesn't excuse capello's awful man management, which was glaringly obvious by the way he didn't even speak to the squad players left out of the final world cup squad.
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« Reply #9 on: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 09:35:41 »

Awful awful awful man management by Crapello.....The man is an idiot in my opinion and has shown Beckham a total lack of disrepect.

After 115 caps and after giving it all for England he finds out his international career is over by watching it on tv??

Total joke.....Capello should have had the decency to tell him personally, This says something about Capello but then again i am not surprised as it shows yet again just how bad his management skills are!
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« Reply #10 on: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 09:37:51 »

beckham has been passed it for a while now.doesn't excuse capello's awful man management, which was glaringly obvious by the way he didn't even speak to the squad players left out of the final world cup squad.

i'd still chose him over half the team that went to the world cup.

as for capello, what an arss. in his interview he even said he doesn't know how to change the mindset of the players. this added to the beckham comment shows his man management skills are lacking big time.

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« Reply #11 on: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 10:48:26 »

I think the media are blowing this way out of proportion to be honest.

If Capello had responded to the question by saying Beckham would never play for England again then I'd understand the furore, but all he did was answer a question honestly by saying that Beckham wasn't part of his plans for the euro qualifiers.

Yes, perhaps Capello should've spoke to Beckham about it beforehand - but it's not as if he knew that question was coming or was a proper cunt about it.
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« Reply #12 on: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 10:54:46 »

Awful awful awful man management by Crapello.....The man is an idiot in my opinion and has shown Beckham a total lack of disrepect.

Did you mean respect ?

Can't help thinking that the media have since the Algeria game ramped up the anti regarding Capello, as whilst the result and performance last night (including the change in personel and playing direction) was acceptable the main headline remains Capellos (admittedly wrong) dealing of the Beckham situation.
Whilst Beckhams desire and efforts for his country over the years has been exemplorary he is not any longer at his peak and we really need to get over him and build for the Euros and future.
If the media really has a desire to whinge about something maybe they should consider what the negatives from last nights game were e.g. Rooneys continued recent lack of form for his country ?...then again Beckham sells papers etc !
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« Reply #13 on: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 11:04:39 »

Did you mean respect ?

Can't help thinking that the media have since the Algeria game ramped up the anti regarding Capello, as whilst the result and performance last night (including the change in personel and playing direction) was acceptable the main headline remains Capellos (admittedly wrong) dealing of the Beckham situation.
Whilst Beckhams desire and efforts for his country over the years has been exemplorary he is not any longer at his peak and we really need to get over him and build for the Euros and future.
If the media really has a desire to whinge about something maybe they should consider what the negatives from last nights game were e.g. Rooneys continued recent lack of form for his country ?...then again Beckham sells papers etc !
I'm not sure how you can really criticise Rooney last night. He was isolated up front at times, and did a decent job of holding the ball up despite a desparing lack of support from the midfield. I think he'd have fared much better if he had been involved in the game when Gerrard was allowed to get forward, after Milner came on.

As for the Beckham thing... IF Capello has said nothing to him it is wrong. However, like everybody else on here, all I have to go on is media speculation - so I find it hard to draw any conclusions about what has happened and what that says about the character of the individuals involved.
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« Reply #14 on: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 11:08:58 »

It's not speculation though. He clearly said it himself i hear and saw him say it. He then went on to say he will speak to Beckham in the next couple of days,bit late really.
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