Chubbs
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« on: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 11:10:26 » |
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Following on from the Lukas J thread...
Ben Tozer (the CB we sold to Newcastle for £1mil) Is on trial at Leyton Orient.
Another case of moving on too early?
I allways thought he'd do a good job at swindon.
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Colin Todd
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« Reply #1 on: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 11:13:57 » |
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We never got £1m for him. We might have done if he was in the England squad
And I never thought he looked any good, Morrison has always looked better to me.
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« Reply #2 on: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 11:32:54 » |
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I think we got a couple of hundred grand for him, with the rest based on appearances, etc.
The last deal done by a desperate board...
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« Reply #3 on: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 12:19:06 » |
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I never really rated Tozer but what do I know? Several clubs in the Premier League rated him.
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Bogus Dave
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« Reply #4 on: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 15:14:10 » |
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He was rubbish
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« Reply #5 on: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 15:26:40 » |
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He was rubbish
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Don Rogers Shop
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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 15:35:30 » |
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Did you come to that conclusion after his full 2 starts and sub appearances for us then?
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Bogus Dave
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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 19:24:37 » |
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Hell yes
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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 20:06:01 » |
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Not sure bigger clubs did fancy him. It seems to me that any player appearing in the lower leagues attracts a lot of attention from the Premiership. They seem desperate to stop any talent going to one of their rivals & snap them up, 'develop' them but never give them meaningful game time in the first team. Leigh Mills playing for Winchester City is, to my mind, a classic example of a real talent cast on the scrap heap. Had he stayed at Swindon I don't doubt that he'd have made the first team and either gone to a bigger club with considerable league experience behind him or hopefully being the mainstay of our defence for years. Didn't see enough of Tozer to form an opinion but I don't think the move to Newcastle was the best move he could make
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« Reply #9 on: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 20:20:57 » |
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I never really saw much in Tozer but by moving to Newcastle, even to never get a game he probably extended his pro career by 2 or so seasons just because he came from Newcastle to wherever he ends up so.... can hardly blame him.
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« Reply #10 on: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 20:22:22 » |
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Again,how much can you see in 2 games Gazza?
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« Reply #11 on: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 20:46:30 » |
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I only saw him away at Carlisle where we lost 3-0 and was sent-off.... Despite that, he didn't look out of place. How old was he then? 17?
He was a practically an instant profit for Swindon.
Good work by David Byrne.
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« Reply #12 on: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 20:55:34 » |
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I only saw him play once myself so don't think i would like to say if he was any good or not.
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« Reply #13 on: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 21:56:56 » |
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Not sure bigger clubs did fancy him. It seems to me that any player appearing in the lower leagues attracts a lot of attention from the Premiership. They seem desperate to stop any talent going to one of their rivals & snap them up, 'develop' them but never give them meaningful game time in the first team. Leigh Mills playing for Winchester City is, to my mind, a classic example of a real talent cast on the scrap heap. Had he stayed at Swindon I don't doubt that he'd have made the first team and either gone to a bigger club with considerable league experience behind him or hopefully being the mainstay of our defence for years. Didn't see enough of Tozer to form an opinion but I don't think the move to Newcastle was the best move he could make
Or Leigh Mills would have stayed at Swindon, drifted around the reserves with a few bonus ldvpaintpot appearances for a few seasons and then drifted down to non-league anyway. |
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« Reply #14 on: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 22:11:28 » |
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Or Leigh Mills would have stayed at Swindon, drifted around the reserves with a few bonus ldvpaintpot appearances for a few seasons and then drifted down to non-league anyway.
These were my thoughts. Going to a Prem club doesn't mean you're more likely to fail, if they have anything about them they'll make it and their potential will come to the surface sooner. If they're a bit crap, they're a bit crap. Being consigned to the scrap heap, like Leigh Mills, would've happened had he developed here or at Spurs. The same may or may not be true of Tozer and Henshall. Jutkiewicz's development experience isn't wildly different from any of the others, post Swindon, but shows that if there is talent, it will come forth. |
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