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« Reply #15 on: Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 14:04:06 »

FIFA is one of the most corrupt and money hungry organisations in the world.
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Doore

« Reply #16 on: Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 14:05:53 »

FIFA is one of the most corrupt and money hungry organisations in the world.

Based on?
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« Reply #17 on: Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 15:43:08 »

Based on?

fact.. go read a few books on football corruption
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« Reply #18 on: Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 15:44:05 »

fact.. go read a few books on football corruption

No need to - you used the "f" word, so I'm convinced.

Having said that, I do think its something I don't know much about.  Could you recommend me some specific books to read on the subject?
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« Reply #19 on: Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 15:49:13 »

Foul!: The Secret World of FIFA: Bribes, Vote Rigging and Ticket Scandals
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« Reply #20 on: Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 15:51:06 »

The author David Yallop wrote a good book - 'How they stole the Game', all about FIFA and especially about Blatter.

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/sport/issues/story/0,,676083,00.html

http://www.yallop.com/howtheystolethegame.aspx
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« Reply #21 on: Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 15:53:57 »

Foul!: The Secret World of FIFA: Bribes, Vote Rigging and Ticket Scandals

The book by Andrew Jennings is superb. Check out his website :

http://transparencyinsport.org/
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« Reply #22 on: Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 15:56:59 »

Thank you all - I'll get reading.
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« Reply #23 on: Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 16:01:34 »

Not so fucking sarcastic now are you? You fucking cunt.
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« Reply #24 on: Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 16:05:14 »

Not so fucking sarcastic now are you? You fucking cunt.

I wasn't being sarcastic.  I don't know much about FIFA.  I appreciate the recommended books, which I will try and get hold of.  Originally, I was just asking if there was any basis for what was quite a strong accusation.

Of course, this will not change your mind about me one bit.  How will I sleep at night?
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« Reply #25 on: Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 16:09:39 »

I'm not sure our own FA is that much better than FIFA. The main problem at least is the same, they've forgotten what the game is about and are only interested in what they can get out of it with no regard for the fans. The amount of money they've pissed away trying to win the WC is shocking, ticket allocations for the actual fans are insulting and so on.

Whilst I think he is a complete cunt, I'd really like to see Alan Sugar get the vacant FA Chairman job. I reckon he'd do a great job and would make major improvements to the way the game is run for the benefit of everyone. Fuck all chance of it happening though, the old boys club will see to that.
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« Reply #26 on: Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 16:14:59 »

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I'm not sure our own FA is that much better than FIFA. The main problem at least is the same, they've forgotten what the game is about and are only interested in what they can get out of it with no regard for the fans. The amount of money they've pissed away trying to win the WC is shocking, ticket allocations for the actual fans are insulting and so on.

Whilst I think he is a complete cunt, I'd really like to see Alan Sugar get the vacant FA Chairman job. I reckon he'd do a great job and would make major improvements to the way the game is run for the benefit of everyone. Fuck all chance of it happening though, the old boys club will see to that.
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If we are talking closer to home, they had a programme on five live last night about the future of English football.  Most people, including representatives of the FA, seemed to be in agreement that the structure of our national game needs to change radically.  All except the Premier League representative, who was advocating a very different approach - even defending the ruling that an 18 year old from overseas brought into an acedemy for three years counts as "home-grown" by the age of 21.  I am no expert in this field, but it strikes me that the Premier League agenda wins out - and they don't give a shit about the National team.
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« Reply #27 on: Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 17:43:49 »

I wasn't being sarcastic.

So this wasn't sarcastic then? Admit it, you just can't help it.

No need to - you used the "f" word, so I'm convinced.
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« Reply #28 on: Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 18:43:59 »

I'm not sure our own FA is that much better than FIFA. The main problem at least is the same, they've forgotten what the game is about and are only interested in what they can get out of it with no regard for the fans. The amount of money they've pissed away trying to win the WC is shocking, ticket allocations for the actual fans are insulting and so on.

Whilst I think he is a complete cunt, I'd really like to see Alan Sugar get the vacant FA Chairman job. I reckon he'd do a great job and would make major improvements to the way the game is run for the benefit of everyone. Fuck all chance of it happening though, the old boys club will see to that.

I disagree that the FA are as bad as FIFA. Yes, there is the 'old farts' brigade that definately needs sorting out, and the influence that the PL have got, but they are not as corrupt as FIFA are. Read the books mentioned. Havelange and Blatter cannot take legal action because of one thing...they tell the truth of how Havelange and Blatter have 'brought' their way to the Presidency.

There is so many dodgy things about FIFA, where do you start? From all the bribes that FIFA officials took, which has been looked into after the collapse of ISL, FIFA's marketing agency. 1mSFR was accidentally paid direct to FIFA in error, when it should've been sent direct to the FIFA official. There is speculation that this person was Havelange, to the fact that people like Jack Warner, who is corrupt as they come, and will be one of 24 people who will decide who gets the 2018 World Cup. Jack Warner, who is head of the Trinidadian FA, sold all the tickets which Trinidad got for qualifying for the 2006 WC, via his own travel company, at over inflated prices, which is against FIFA rules.

What punishment did Warner gets? A slap on the wrists, which considering Warner made approx $1m from the ticket sales is a meaningless punishment.

Also, after promising the Trinidad players a bonus for qualifying and reneged on it.
This is the kind of people that Blatter relies on to stay in power.

http://transparencyinsport.org/Racist_Jack_Warner/kick_racism_out_of_football.html
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« Reply #29 on: Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 18:59:24 »

Good shout SO69 but as with everything else in life we are powerless to do anything about it.Can we?
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