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« Reply #60 on: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 19:42:11 » |
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One small problem that would be illegal under EU law.
Why? They charge more for eating in than taking out - surely it's the same in reverse? |
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« Reply #61 on: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 19:49:03 » |
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Why? They charge more for eating in than taking out - surely it's the same in reverse?
Taxing alcohol (and minimum pricing) come under EU competition laws. Take aways, i.e. food is different it comes under complicated VAT rules (VAT being an EU tax as condition of our membership in 1973) depending on whether it's hot or cold. |
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« Reply #62 on: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 19:53:09 » |
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If you can spend, say, 1000 quid on vatable items then the 25 quid extra shouldnt be a problem.
I'm not saying it is, I'm just saying that for someone to say "it'll cost no more than a couple of quid a month" assumes a spend of only £100 per month. Anyone with a Starbucks habit that nips there every working day will pretty much spend that on coffee. |
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« Reply #63 on: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 19:54:44 » |
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I'm not saying it is, I'm just saying that for someone to say "it'll cost no more than a couple of quid a month" assumes a spend of only £100 per month. Anyone with a Starbucks habit that nips there every working day will pretty much spend that on coffee.
Is it possible to have a Starbucks habit? |
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« Reply #64 on: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 19:56:03 » |
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Taxing alcohol (and minimum pricing) come under EU competition laws. Take aways, i.e. food is different it comes under complicated VAT rules (VAT being an EU tax as condition of our membership in 1973) depending on whether it's hot or cold.
Minimum pricing is covered by EU law - taxing isn't - otherwise the government would not be allowed to change the tax on drinks... surely? Scotland tried to introduce minimum pricing on alcohol and got rapped for it but had they raised the tax then it would have been different |
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« Reply #65 on: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 19:59:09 » |
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I'm not saying it is, I'm just saying that for someone to say "it'll cost no more than a couple of quid a month" assumes a spend of only £100 per month. Anyone with a Starbucks habit that nips there every working day will pretty much spend that on coffee.
Anyone who spends £100 a month on coffee has a serious problem. And I was refering to a monthly shop i.e. grocery items. I was generalising when I said £100, but that's not far wide of the mark. I personally spend no more than £150 on groceries. |
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« Reply #66 on: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 19:59:42 » |
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Minimum pricing is covered by EU law - taxing isn't - otherwise the government would not be allowed to change the tax on drinks... surely?
Minimum VAT is EU law, currently set at 15% for all member states. The hike to 20% will go some way to paying off the increase in EU contributions of £20bn this year. This is the real reason of course - VAT is and always will be there to pay for the cunts in Brussels. Also, 20% lines us up nicely with the standard rate in Europe. |
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« Reply #67 on: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 20:01:06 » |
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Minimum pricing is covered by EU law - taxing isn't - otherwise the government would not be allowed to change the tax on drinks... surely?
Yes the Government can set whatever rate tax it likes, what it can't do is set different rates for the same products, i.e. one rate for pubs and another rate for the same beer in an offy or a supermarket. |
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« Reply #68 on: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 20:29:34 » |
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They won't cancel courses people are already on, they'll just have far fewer places available next year and forever more...
Really? Tell that to my step-son - 2 years into a 3 year degree course, cancelled at the end of the 2nd year. No notice, nothing, just thanks for your fees for the past two years now fuck off. Wasn't even an undersubscribed course, in fact it was quite popular, just the Uni had decided they didn't want to run it any more. And that was before any cutbacks. There'll be plenty of Vice-Chancellors sharpening the knives for courses they've been wanting rid of for a while anyway and using cutbacks as an excuse. That is definitely Labour's for screwing up Higher Education by turning everything in sight into a University so that the masses could exercise their right to read for a degree in something useless like media studies or flower arranging. After all the country will need a skilled workforce.
Then they realised it costs too much so now everyone will be shafted on fees.
Oh I don't disagree - the "all must have prizes" attitude has done a lot of damage. Just giving an example of why dave's "I'm all right Jack" complacency is almost certainly misplaced. No sector will escape the effects of the tightenings over the next few years, we're all going to be hit by it. Anyone who thinks they're going to escape is either a fool or a Cabinet Minister. Possibly both |
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« Reply #69 on: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 20:40:38 » |
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Oh. I start a 3 year BA in History this September and thought I was safe!
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« Reply #70 on: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 20:46:37 » |
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Oh. I start a 3 year BA in History this September and thought I was safe!
I don't think it will be a widespread practice to be honest. In this case, it was a new course and while it wasn't one of your "Applied Flower Arranging and Travel Solutions" it also wasn't mainstream academic and while it was popular with students the Uni seems to have decided it "didn't fit" with their "strategy", so they just canned it. I'd have thought a solid mainstream academic course like History at a well-established Uni would be reasonably safe. But without wishing to be alarmist, we could be in for a national shortage of Media Studies graduates in a few years' time. |
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« Reply #71 on: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 20:48:55 » |
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Anyone who spends £100 a month on coffee has a serious problem.
And I was refering to a monthly shop i.e. grocery items. I was generalising when I said £100, but that's not far wide of the mark. I personally spend no more than £150 on groceries.
What is the cost of a medium latte or whatever in one of these places £2-3? Pick one of those up in your lunch break each day and you're looking at £60 or so. And fucking well done if you only spend £100 - £150 on groceries a month, I can spend that each week, but most groceries are going to be zero rated surely? |
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« Reply #72 on: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 20:49:38 » |
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Oh. I start a 3 year BA in History this September and thought I was safe!
Its a thing of the past. Well someone had to say it. |
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« Reply #73 on: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 20:52:26 » |
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Its a thing of the past.
Well someone had to say it.
You're no nev ... but it made me smile |
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« Reply #74 on: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 20:53:07 » |
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Really? Tell that to my step-son - 2 years into a 3 year degree course, cancelled at the end of the 2nd year. No notice, nothing, just thanks for your fees for the past two years now fuck off.
Whilst my post was part tongue in cheek and part serious but for anyone to be in this situation really really sucks. Is there no right of appeal or any way to reclaim the fees? Not a lot can be done about the two years 'wasted', unless there is a possibility of transferring. I bet even then there would be 2 more years to do. *cough* class action lawsuit *cough* You're no nev ... but it made me smile
I'm not even Adver standard. |
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