Poker

[BANGKOK RED]

I know.

But it seems a bit silly to me to fold on such a hand.

[Samdy Gray]

The winner often has a lesser pair or two pairs that they won on the river.

Loose callers. There's nothing you can do about them. The bane of many a poker players life.

[Chubbs]

A few pointers.

Dont overplay hands such as JJ/ QJ/ KJ etc, worth seeing a flop with but you need to be prepared to cut your losses and lay them down.
You need to know when your beat and when to lay the cards down.
I was in a situation a while back (live money game) when i got dealt QQ i standard raised to which i got re-raised and then reraised again. At this point I knew someone was up, one of the 2 players left in the game with me had a monster hand, so after mutch deliberation i folder QQ pre flop other two players went all in and i read it right and one of those players did infact have AA. What happened after that i am still distraught about...the remaning 2 Q's come out in the flop which would have given me Quads. But at the time it was the right fold to make.
Its very hard to lay down such hands but sometimes you gotta do it,

[Ben Wah Balls]

If you're playing decent players it can be ok to reraise with a weak hand as a bluff against a player who is raising a lot and likely to fold to a reraise. For example, if it's folded round to the button or small blind and they raise - many players will raise a lot of hands there to steal the blinds and fold most of them to a reraise, so it's fine to reraise without having to have anything great.

In play money though all the players tend to want to see the flop and will hardly ever fold to reraises, so plays like that won't work and will just cost you chips, so if there are 6 or 7 players raising and reraising with weak hands they probably just don't have much idea what they're doing and are just playing crazily for fun. Like Barry says play money is quite different from real money. If you're taking it seriously then it's generally best to play your hands pretty straightforwardly, just betting when you have a strong hand and not bluffing much. It's the same with really low stakes real money.

With hands like JJ it really depends who you're playing. If all the other players are often raising and reraising a lot with much worse hands and going all in with really weak hands then I'd happily be all in with it before the flop (depending exactly how many big blinds I had) but against tighter players you'd only be called by better hands.

[BANGKOK RED]

Cheers all

I have learned a lot from the play money guys, but you have taught me more in a way that is easy for me to understand, thanks for that.

I suspected that it was them being dicks and not myself, I'd love a semi-serious game (Not for money, but for winnage) with the TEF so that I could learn something.

I am definitely still not ready for real money yet because I still don't understand the "big blind" thing. Layman's terms would be appreciated.

Thank you kind folk.

[Ben Wah Balls]

Oh sorry. The big blind is the player who is forced to post a blind before the flop no matter what their cards are and in no limit it's also the minimum amount you are allowed to bet at any time. The amount of blinds you have is just the amount of times more than the big blind you have at the table. eg if it was a 25p/50p table the small blind is 25p, the big blind is 50p and if you had £30 at the table you would have 60 big blinds. If you had £60 you would have 120 big blinds. Generally the more blinds you have at the table the less often you should be all in during the hand. (although it depends on other things too).

[BANGKOK RED]

Playing for money now, albeit very small money. At least the players seem to try to play properly.

Quite a learning curve. It is easy at first to overestimate how strong your cards may be innit? By that I mean in other card games pictures and 10's are power cards but in poker a King/Queen with a 7 in the hole, for example, is worth little.

[PocketScience]

Playing for money now, albeit very small money. At least the players seem to try to play properly.

Quite a learning curve. It is easy at first to overestimate how strong your cards may be innit? By that I mean in other card games pictures and 10's are power cards but in poker a King/Queen with a 7 in the hole, for example, is worth little.

Yeah, to start off you don't wanna play crap like Q7. Stick to pocket pairs, A10+, KQ+ at first is my advice

Eventually you can start raising in position to steal if you pick your spots correctly, in which case it really doesn't matter what cards you have but that's a bit far ahead...just keep playing and reading everything you can find and you'll do ok, there's always more to learn! Good luck

[Freddies Ferret]

hows your poker game getting on BR?

[BANGKOK RED]

I've put it put recently. I blew my bankroll my playing whilst drunk, DOH!

I started again on the free entry tournaments but I don't think there is much point because I am not up against people taking it seriously. One become's rather despondent when they have their pocket Kings constantly beaten by a pair of fooking 5's, for example.

I did tell myself that I'd put none of my own money into but I think that I am going to have to if I am to give it a proper go. Once I have a little more cash to flash then I'll pick it up again and try to play on tables where people at least try to play properly.

I'm certainly not giving up though.

[Freddies Ferret]

How much you build up to? Which site do you play?

[BANGKOK RED]

Can't remember what table level I was up to, still very low level though. I was playing mostly on party poker.

My main problem was/is tilting and making stupid moves even though I knew that it was a stupid move, this wasn't helped by playing when drunk. I S'pose that's an experience thing

[Chubbs]

Can't remember what table level I was up to, still very low level though. I was playing mostly on party poker.

My main problem was/is tilting and making stupid moves even though I knew that it was a stupid move, this wasn't helped by playing when drunk. I S'pose that's an experience thing

get off party poker, its full of donks.
try full tilt

[LJ9]

My rule of thumb is don't play an 8 - full stop unless you have pocket flush or 88 (even that is a risk on the flop)

The way I play is more or less a combination of what the rest are saying. You will find your own game and it will take time. Someone said to me before that the best time to play is Friday night. Make sure you are sober as those who play late are normally the ones who come in from the pub and  just throw their money around coz they are pissed up.

Maths also helps for percentages and "outs"

[Freddies Ferret]

get off party poker, its full of donks.
try full tilt

I play pokerstars but might give full tilt ago