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« Reply #165 on: Friday, April 23, 2010, 14:37:03 »

And I'd be prepared to bet that both papers make up lies.

I'd say most of what all papers write is bollocks, or at least the truth twisted to the point it is bollocks. The trouble is people read "their" paper and allow that to aid their opinions.

People always say how one is more honest than the other, bollocks. No newspaper cares about accuracy, they care about sales, they're a business not a provider of free impartial public information. And as jonny says, the truth is that even if the paper supposedly doesn't have an axe to grind, reporters do.

Besides, regardless of headlines or facts, people only chose to believe what reinforces their own opinions anyway.
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« Reply #166 on: Friday, April 23, 2010, 15:06:31 »

FFS, I only made a sarcy comment about the Sun being a pile of arse and next thing we're into the fucking Pulitzer committee.

There's clearly a qualitative difference between arsewipes like the Sun/Star/Mirror and the likes of the Telegraph/Guardian/Independent. And anyone trying to claim "Oooh, they're all as bad as each other so it's absolutely fine to take the Sun as seriously as the proper grown-up papers" just can't read. Or think. Probably neither.
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« Reply #167 on: Friday, April 23, 2010, 15:08:13 »

FFS, I only made a sarcy comment about the Sun being a pile of arse and next thing we're into the fucking Pulitzer committee.

There's clearly a qualitative difference between arsewipes like the Sun/Star/Mirror and the likes of the Telegraph/Guardian/Independent. And anyone trying to claim "Oooh, they're all as bad as each other so it's absolutely fine to take the Sun as seriously as the proper grown-up papers" just can't read. Or think. Probably neither.

That may be so, but everyone knows to take the tabloids with a pince of salt. You know what you're getting, the lies in the others that you mention are far more subtle and long lasting.
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« Reply #168 on: Friday, April 23, 2010, 15:33:15 »

That may be so, but everyone knows to take the tabloids with a pince of salt.
Really? There was someone on here the other day backing up some piece of nonsense or other by quoting a story in the Sun and saying something along the lines of "I know it's in the Sun but its true"
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« Reply #169 on: Friday, April 23, 2010, 15:37:49 »

Maybe all the papers should use the line :

25% truthful....80% spin
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« Reply #170 on: Friday, April 23, 2010, 15:47:45 »

Really? There was someone on here the other day backing up some piece of nonsense or other by quoting a story in the Sun and saying something along the lines of "I know it's in the Sun but its true"

Ok, anyone with half a brain then Cheesy
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« Reply #171 on: Friday, April 23, 2010, 15:56:53 »

Ok, anyone with half a brain then Cheesy
Rules me out, then Smiley
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« Reply #172 on: Friday, April 23, 2010, 16:47:39 »

the debates have been far better than i'd anticipated and thoroughly interesting.

clegg had nothing to lose going into last week's debate but continued impressively last night, although some of the lib dem policies on immigration really do not stand up to any scrutiny whatsoever. brown waffled on without saying much, somehow managing to sound disturbingly right wing when talking about immigration.

a lot of the body language anbd facial expressions of the leaders whilst not talking were quite interesting. cameron was particularly emotive, frequently rolling his eyes and sighing to himself - usually after brown had spoken.
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« Reply #173 on: Friday, April 23, 2010, 20:05:40 »

the likes of the Telegraph/Guardian/Independent. And anyone trying to claim "Oooh, they're all as bad as each other so it's absolutely fine to take the Sun as seriously as the proper grown-up papers" just can't read. Or think. Probably neither.

All lefty papers.
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Doore

« Reply #174 on: Friday, April 23, 2010, 20:14:15 »

All lefty papers.

Torygraph lefty?  Really?
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flammableBen

« Reply #175 on: Friday, April 23, 2010, 20:45:52 »

Torygraph lefty?  Really?

Anything that doesn't agree with the anti government middle age break down possibly mentally ill written blogs that talk talk reads is a left wing conspiracy.

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« Reply #176 on: Friday, April 23, 2010, 21:47:58 »

Torygraph lefty?  Really?

To be fair to TT, from the mentalist hinterland he inhabits even the Mail seems a little pinko
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« Reply #177 on: Friday, April 23, 2010, 22:08:37 »

Torygraph lefty?  Really?

Yes, really.

It is a million miles away from the Conservative leaning paper it used to be.

Guardian = Independent = Telegraph
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« Reply #178 on: Friday, April 23, 2010, 22:09:38 »

To be fair to TT, from the mentalist hinterland he inhabits even the Mail seems a little pinko

No, the Mail is definitely right wing your Lumpy Bumpy.
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« Reply #179 on: Friday, April 23, 2010, 22:10:19 »

Anything that doesn't agree with the anti government middle age break down possibly mentally ill written blogs that talk talk reads is a left wing conspiracy.

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