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« Reply #45 on: Monday, February 8, 2010, 22:22:21 »

Looking at those stats I'd suggest we wouldn't be doing to well if we were playing in the Premiership this season then.  I think we'd be around 6th in League 1 though.

DV's hit the nail on the head I think, it's more about the fact that we've only been 1 goal in front with about 15 minutes to go that leads to this issue.  I suggest iffy pops through all the other teams fixtures and checks out how many times they've been 2 goals up compared to us, then we can strip out the outliers in the sample.

It may be a problem, but it's because we are not quite good enough to outstrip every team every game.  Can't we just celebrate being 6th or is that too last season?
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« Reply #46 on: Monday, February 8, 2010, 22:29:36 »

I thought it was a fairly interesting stat, not sure why there was hostility.

Me neither. Very odd. You know you have a problem when the oppo's manager says, "We knew Swindon were prone to conceding late goals so we just kept going" or something like that.

I would have thought the answer was just to keep playing the same way that got you a goal/two goals up in the first place and don't drop so pissing deep. I can't see why it's so hard.

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« Reply #47 on: Monday, February 8, 2010, 22:44:34 »

Me neither. Very odd. You know you have a problem when the oppo's manager says, "We knew Swindon were prone to conceding late goals so we just kept going" or something like that.

I would have thought the answer was just to keep playing the same way that got you a goal/two goals up in the first place and don't drop so pissing deep. I can't see why it's so hard.

(waits for some one to say 'FUCK OFF TWAT')

Likewise. Attack is the best form of defence (some Chinese arsehole general said that in about the 5th century BC). But what do I know?
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« Reply #48 on: Monday, February 8, 2010, 22:46:21 »

Likewise. Attack is the best form of defence (some Chinese arsehole general said that in about the 5th century BC). But what do I know?

That would be Sun Tzu. 
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« Reply #49 on: Monday, February 8, 2010, 22:47:30 »

I don't think you really need stats to confirm that we lose too many points in the last 5 minutes and equally that we don't win too many points in the last 5 minutes either.

There does seem a definite improvement on last season though when it felt like every game we had a lead it was never safe until the final whistle. But this season there have been plenty of games where we've had a 1 goal lead and I've been confident we'd see it through (and we did).

I reckon its fatigue (fitness, strength, mental etc). Partly due to the large number of games most of our team play (as there is no cover) and partly due to the way we play. We seemed to be working a lot harder than Charlton for the first 85 minutes and then when they turned up the heat, we didn't have anything left in the tank.

I'd give Morrison a run out and give Cuthbert and Greer a game or two off, same with Pericard and the front two.
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« Reply #50 on: Monday, February 8, 2010, 22:54:36 »

Pericard is injured, or at least was.

We sat back on a one goal lead for 30 minutes. Eventually when they went for broke in the last few minutes the pressure got too much. Could have been a handful up by then though, just not our day I don't think.
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« Reply #51 on: Monday, February 8, 2010, 23:00:29 »

just not our day I don't think.

That's just a complicated way of saying it was our day.
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« Reply #52 on: Monday, February 8, 2010, 23:14:45 »

Easy answer to all this, just get all the crowd to start whistling for the final whistle around about 83 minutes.....we may confuse the ref  Smiley
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« Reply #53 on: Monday, February 8, 2010, 23:58:31 »

That's just a complicated way of saying it was our day.

Yeah, too many negatives. You knew what I meant though, right?
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« Reply #54 on: Tuesday, February 9, 2010, 06:55:25 »

Attack is the best form of defence

Simple as that. It really is. Football's a simple game made far more complicated than it needs to be.
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« Reply #55 on: Tuesday, February 9, 2010, 07:26:10 »

Here's the answer, a rather cunning stunt I'd say. In games where we are leading by 1 goal with 5 minutes remaining we should score an own goal thereby lulling the opposition into a false sense of job done and whilst they are feeling relaxed we nip down the other end and score the winner.
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« Reply #56 on: Tuesday, February 9, 2010, 08:16:47 »


I would have thought the answer was just to keep playing the same way that got you a goal/two goals up in the first place and don't drop so pissing deep. I can't see why it's so hard.


Its not that simple as the other team attack more and force us back.

We can analysis our team all we want but the opposition have to play their part as well.

...I also want some of what Jonny is on. Rest Greer and/or Cuthbert. Not even Andy King would do something as stupid as that.
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« Reply #57 on: Tuesday, February 9, 2010, 08:17:06 »


I would have thought the answer was just to keep playing the same way that got you a goal/two goals up in the first place and don't drop so pissing deep. I can't see why it's so hard.


Its not that simple as the other team attack more and force us back.

We can analysis our team all we want but the opposition have to play their part as well.

...I also want some of what Jonny is on. Rest Greer and/or Cuthbert. Not even Andy King would do something as stupid as that.
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« Reply #58 on: Tuesday, February 9, 2010, 10:03:56 »

There was a player ready to be subbed on just before the goal, but from where I sit in the Arkells I couldn't see who. I bet it was Timlin. Perhaps someone who had a view of the dugout could confirm?

It was Easton.

That's good news because it proves that the problem is not a gypsy curse, so hopefully it's something Danny and the players can do something about - starting tonight - because I just don't think we've got the support to shift the Earth into a different orbit.
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