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« Reply #30 on: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 19:30:40 » |
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You are right.
However the worst are the type that come back with
Manchester United/Chelsea/Arsenal/Liverpool/Spurs are in my blood, my uncle/dad/gramp/long lost second cousin supported them and used to go to Old Trafford/Stamford Bridge/Highbury/Anfield/White Hart Lane 4 times a season. I went once when I was 3 and I've been a supporter ever since. I buy the home and away shirt.
Dont get on your high horse. Just because you happen to live local and can get to your teams games doesnt make you a better fan than me. Swindon are well shit so getting tickets isnt difficult. Have you ever tried to get tickets for Manchester United/Chelsea/Arsenal/Liverpool/Spurs. I'm part of the bronze super dulex armchair fan members club. I apply every game but the tickets never get as far as me.
FUCK OFF!
Ignorance is bliss for these people. I wouldnt mind, but top flight football is increasingly being run, not for the fans who are in the stands, but the ones who watch on TV. Its decreased the importance of the real fans in the grounds. Football being run by idiots, for idiots.
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« Reply #31 on: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 19:35:40 » |
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Ignorance is bliss for these people.
I wouldnt mind, but top flight football is increasingly being run, not for the fans who are in the stands, but the ones who watch on TV.
Spot on Spencer. Which is one of the reasons why the Glazers, the Gillettes, the Hicks etc can get away with what they do, because the armchair "fans" don't know and don't care about how they treat proper fans. So when proper fans try to raise the issues that are affecting actual fans who go to games, they get ignored because they're drowned out by morons on radio phone-ins who've never been near a game in their lives ("Hi Alan, it's Colin from Gloucester I'm a Liverpool fan and I think....")
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« Reply #32 on: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 19:41:38 » |
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ManU £716m in debt now... i don't get how this is allowed?
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« Reply #33 on: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 19:45:05 » |
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ManU £716m in debt now... i don't get how this is allowed?
Because there's nothing to stop it. Perfectly legal business practice and according to Scudamore, there is no problem with debt in the Premier League so the football authorities don't need to do anything about it either. So it's all OK
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« Reply #34 on: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 19:48:09 » |
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Then he is a dick.
Nice reasoned arguement by me.
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« Reply #35 on: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 19:54:02 » |
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Then he is a dick.
Nice reasoned arguement by me.
Well Scudamore supports the Slave Traders...Says everything about the guy !!
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« Reply #36 on: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 20:06:49 » |
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Because there's nothing to stop it. Perfectly legal business practice and according to Scudamore, there is no problem with debt in the Premier League so the football authorities don't need to do anything about it either. So it's all OK
If I get through the first caller on a football radio show then Ive done well. I cant listen to them and its been that way for 10 years. Every now and then there will be one that makes me so angry Il have to listen. Like when McDons won the JPT and spoony (host, Liverpool fan who grew up 4 miles from Wimbledon) didnt know what had happened to allow the creation of McDons, why it was important, why it was destested. I tried to get on that day. But I think the researchers (great degree, great job, well done) only let on the safest callers. Honestly, football phone ins used to be worth listening to. Looking forward to this United/Liverpool debt shit hitting the fan. Shame Abramovich seems to be prepared to keep pouring his cash into a black hole.
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« Reply #37 on: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 21:55:18 » |
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If I get through the first caller on a football radio show then Ive done well. I cant listen to them and its been that way for 10 years.
Every now and then there will be one that makes me so angry Il have to listen. Like when McDons won the JPT and spoony (host, Liverpool fan who grew up 4 miles from Wimbledon) didnt know what had happened to allow the creation of McDons, why it was important, why it was destested.
I tried to get on that day. But I think the researchers (great degree, great job, well done) only let on the safest callers. Honestly, football phone ins used to be worth listening to.
Looking forward to this United/Liverpool debt shit hitting the fan. Shame Abramovich seems to be prepared to keep pouring his cash into a black hole.
I listened to Spoony once on 606 (never again), it may have been the same time - an AFC wimbledon fan phoned in and refered to MK as 'Franchise', he asked 'what's all that about'!!! Fucking idiot. Typical London based Liverpool fan, doesn't know anything beyond the top six
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« Reply #38 on: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 22:06:24 » |
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I listen to the 6-0-6 podcasts because of my commute and I like listening to the fans that are clearly mental.
'Spoony' is really, really poor - it's a relief when he's off doing some charity golf event somewhere.
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« Reply #39 on: Thursday, January 21, 2010, 09:32:43 » |
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I think the main problem with Spoony is that the Beeb somehow confused a person who knows quite a few footballers with someone who knows anything about football. There is, as he repeatedly demonstrates, a big difference
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« Reply #40 on: Thursday, January 21, 2010, 09:57:56 » |
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ManU £716m in debt now... i don't get how this is allowed?
Because they have a billion pound in assets so effectively they are still solvent. Perfectly legal. If debt was called in they could easily pay it with their assets and have money left over.
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« Reply #41 on: Thursday, January 21, 2010, 10:09:37 » |
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But they wouldn't have a stadium, players, manager etc left.
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« Reply #42 on: Thursday, January 21, 2010, 10:32:57 » |
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But they wouldn't have a stadium, players, manager etc left.
Why not? Even after all the debt was paid off they would still have £200M (1Bill - 700M- say 100m Interest) left for players, play at a stadium etc. so... thats why it is legal. Love it or hate it, its perfectly legal and thats how they get away with it, whilst Pompey for example may have stupid debts but do not have assets to cover them hence why they head into administration. Also part of the reason we would head into liquidation as we had no assetts and were (and still are) hemoraging money but atleast we have people who wil make up the short fall for now.
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« Reply #43 on: Thursday, January 21, 2010, 12:35:33 » |
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Their hedge fund debt is running at something north of 15%. It's like buying a house you can't afford and putting a chunk of it on credit cards.
All going to end in tears.
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« Reply #44 on: Thursday, January 21, 2010, 13:10:34 » |
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Their hedge fund debt is running at something north of 15%. It's like buying a house you can't afford and putting a chunk of it on credit cards.
All going to end in tears.
I really hope so.
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