Paynter rejects new contract

[Saxondale]

They've not always been good for us have they, we've done a fair amount of work (obviously when I say we, I haven't taken too many training sessions myself, but you know what I mean...) to help them develop to this standard.  For that reason I don't think they'll go. 

They are on good form, playing in a team that is performing better than anyone has the right to expect it to and moving would risk an awful lot for them.  It doesn't seem the right time in their careers for them to be buggering off on the strength of two thirds of a decent season.

[jonny72]

I don't think you can blame any player for moving to another club for more money. Nowadays its very easy to find yourself without a club and no income, so if you've got the option of earning an extra £50k a year or a longer contract elsewhere it must be very hard to turn it down. Its not like any of our players are going to be set up for life with the wages paid at this level.

[Stef Troll]

Wouldnt be too sad to see him go as hes easily replaceable.  A fair few of his goals this season have come from the penalty spot.  I think he maybe slightly better then someone like Revell, but hes still a poor mans Tommy Mooney.

[Power to people]

They've not always been good for us have they, we've done a fair amount of work (obviously when I say we, I haven't taken too many training sessions myself, but you know what I mean...) to help them develop to this standard.  For that reason I don't think they'll go. 

They are on good form, playing in a team that is performing better than anyone has the right to expect it to and moving would risk an awful lot for them.  It doesn't seem the right time in their careers for them to be buggering off on the strength of two thirds of a decent season.

JP was highly rated when he played for Franchise, he then signed for us showed in glimpses what he could do really until this season when he is clearly having his best season for us.

 more than likely that is down to Wilson and his tactics allowing JP to come in off the wing and move into the middle when play dictates, he seems to relish that position, yes footballers move for more money but some of them actually like to try and acheive something in their career and it would be an achievment for any player at Swindon if they helped us to promotion, and their reputation would rise further with that on the CV also, I do beleive that JP is one of those players.  so unless we accept a large offer for him I think he will stay.

[Arriba]

it's blatantly obvious what is going on with paynter.he wants a better contract and if he can get that here he'll stay.if he doesn't get what he wants and can elsewhere he'll go.
nearly all modern players are like this and dont "love" the clubs they play for.

[Rich Pullen]

Paynter is replaceable but I'd prefer it if such an exit happened in the Summer as opposed to this window.

[pauld]

I don't think you can blame any player for moving to another club for more money.

Yeah I can. Cunts.

But I think some people are underrating Billy P here - he's getting the goals (and so what if they're penalties - Coxy scored his share of penalties and I don't remember anyone complaining about that), his effort this season has been superb and he's formed very effective partnerships with first Cox and now Austin. It's very easy to say "Oh, so and so's just a journeyman, we could replace him easily". You might be able to replace the player, but replacing the partnership can be a lot more difficult - Billy brings a lot more to the side than just his goals

[DV]

plus, rather that just saying we could replace him...

....who the hell could we replace him with anyway?

[Rich Pullen]

Centre Forwards come and go. Paynter is out of the shadow of Simon Cox and is thriving with an up and coming league forward.

I wouldn't be happy if he exits the club this month but after that we can easily replace him adequately.

[jonny72]

You might be able to replace the player, but replacing the partnership can be a lot more difficult - Billy brings a lot more to the side than just his goals

There is no doubt that Paynter has formed an excellent relationship with Austin the same as he did with Cox. But you need to look at it from the other side as well, in that Paynter has played a lot better with the right partner than he did without.

He was 3rd choice striker at first until Corr got injured and he clicked with Cox. I didn't think his performances at the beginning of this season were that great (though they weren't bad either), which changed when Austin came along.

But he still ain't the quality of player that we should be breaking the bank for. If he does go I can't see it happening this month, he'll want to see out the season and the possible promotion / play offs. Maybe Wilson wouldn't want him if we're in the Championship next season.

[pauld]

Yeah, but you think everyone's "shit"

[DV]

...and still no names of replacements.

...and when the fucking hell was Paynter 3rd choice behind Barry fucking Corr?

[tans]

Yeah, but you think everyone's "shit"

[Rich Pullen]

Naming potential replacements is pointless because we don't know the market like those in the business do.

Nobody suggested in the summer that everything would be okay because a 30+ goalscorer could be replaced by a 20 year old from Poole Town forging another decent partnership with Paynter.

If we did the likes of Bart would be telling us that we were preparing for relegation.

[jonny72]

Yeah, but you think everyone's "shit"

Indeed. Bizarrely, I think the only player I haven't referred to as "shit" at least once is LJF.