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« on: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 12:06:46 »

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20091229/tuk-anger-after-british-man-executed-in-45dbed5.html

I suppose the fact that no European has been executed in China for drug trafficking in over fifty years show how big a deterent the death penalty is.
Weve all got our views on capital punishment....and maybe this is China showing the West it will not tolerate Western views.
Of course its a personal tragedy for the relatives of this man..but Chinese justice has been done.
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china red

« Reply #1 on: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 13:09:08 »

I doubt very much that if he had been a white foreigner China would have executed him.  There's quite a lot of racial tension in the west of China at the moment.
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nochee

« Reply #2 on: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 13:55:49 »

There was a look-a-like competition in China last weekend          Everybody won!   Cheesy
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« Reply #3 on: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 13:57:05 »

Ban this racist!
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« Reply #4 on: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 13:57:57 »

There was a look-a-like competition in China last weekend          Everybody won!   Cheesy

 Cheesy Cheesy
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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 14:02:09 »

Fuck off Ironside
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china red

« Reply #6 on: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 14:21:11 »

There was a look-a-like competition in China last weekend          Everybody won!   Cheesy

Stupid cunt
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nochee

« Reply #7 on: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 14:48:30 »

Stupid cunt

Time of the month is it?
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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 14:50:45 »

I doubt very much that if he had been a white foreigner China would have executed him.  There's quite a lot of racial tension in the west of China at the moment.

Racial tension against who?
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china red

« Reply #9 on: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 15:09:48 »

Racial tension against who?
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The locals in both Tibet and Xin Jiang are fairly unhappy that the Han Chinese are migrating in large numbers to their provinces, some say destroying their culture and heritage and taking most of the good jobs. 

There has been civil unrest in both these regions in recent years, terrorist attacks in other areas of China carried out by muslims from Xin Jiang.  Rumour's of people from those areas stealing babies and eating them or stabbing random people with HIV infected needles doesn't help.

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Spencer_White

« Reply #10 on: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 17:44:08 »

See Labour and Gordon Brown are making a fuss.

Where was Gordon Brown when we extradited the Aspergers syndrome man (who hacked NASA computers), where was Brown when we extradited him to America for a life sentance in an American jail?

Where were you Brown you fucking creep. Shame on you.

As for this bloke. He did import a lot of Heroin, and people in China get executed for a lot less than trafficking Heroin. If you go somewhere like China obey their laws, because they dont fuck about. Dont agree with the death penalty myself, but people should respect the laws of foreign countries and that goes for immigrants for this country too.

Saw a Muslim man with two wives, both in Burkhas down the bottom of Town a couple of days ago. It's not OK.
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« Reply #11 on: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 18:27:53 »

They're making a big thing about his mental illness, but I'm not sure that bipolar disorder is an excuse for what he did - I'm not aware of it having that big an impact on knowing right from wrong which is what they seem to be claiming. Though he should have had a proper medical assessment and it appears that he didn't.

It is bollocks for China to claim we're trying to interfere in their judicial process. We asked for clemency but that is nowhere near the same as interfering. Though the bigger question is why Britain and the EU don't take a stronger stance against countries that still use the death penalty.

Its sad that international politics come in to it though. Gordon Brown could have saved his life if he wanted to push it but obviously he didn't. China must have weighed up the pros and cons and decided to go for it, whatever their reason.

If he was white you can't help but think it wouldn't have happened as the shit would have totally hit the fan.
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« Reply #12 on: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 18:42:53 »

The bloke was skint as anything and was off to china to start a pop career after failing to start his own airline. Was carrying 4kg of coke. The Chinese government have strict rules, and they reckon that amount of cocaine could have affected thousands of people and had a street value of £250k.

My opinion is that the right decision was made as he knew the laws before entering their country.
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« Reply #13 on: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 18:59:00 »

In this case, I don't think the death penalty was the right course of action (only in my opinion of course), but on the other hand, the laws are there to be obided by so there was always going to be a high chance of execution if the law is broken.  Its not like China decided to suddenly implement a law for this man alone.  Unfortunately, with China's poor human rights record it hasn't done itself any favours.

What irritates me somewhat is Britain thinking it has the right to interfere (maybe not the right choice of word but you get my drift) in other countries judicial systems and how they handle law breakers/criminals.  We are never going to agree with everything that is done overseas but every country has its own right to make its own laws and punish those who break them.  I don't understand why we always deem ourselves as 'right' in terms of how these things should be handled and have little or no respect for cultural differences which can impact the judicial system.

I don't think the death penalty is right for this type of crime, however our streets are riddled with drugs and I'd love to see a tougher course of action against those who distribute them.

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« Reply #14 on: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 19:12:05 »

What irritates me somewhat is Britain thinking it has the right to interfere (maybe not the right choice of word but you get my drift) in other countries judicial systems and how they handle law breakers/criminals.  We are never going to agree with everything that is done overseas but every country has its own right to make its own laws and punish those who break them.  I don't understand why we always deem ourselves as 'right' in terms of how these things should be handled and have little or no respect for cultural differences which can impact the judicial system.

What exactly did we do to interfere with the Chinese judicial process?

Nothing, as far as I'm aware. Asking for clemency isn't interfering and I haven't read or heard a single thing to suggest we tried to do anything else. Sure, we asked whether they had properly taken in to account his mental state but again, why would that be viewed as interfering?

It pisses me off when people suggest things like this as we're probably the only country in the world that does respect cultural differences of other countries. We haven't made a major issue out of it like a lot of countries would.
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