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« Reply #30 on: Monday, December 14, 2009, 22:09:16 »

Interesting to see Slimes reporting that BA cabin crew are on an average salary of £29k compared to Virgin with an average of just £14k by comparison.

I do feel for them in their situation reducing crew numbers on flights and redundancies are not something to sit down and take lightly.  Just a fucker that ordinary folk are going to feel the effects.

I have to say though BA crew are not a patch on Virgin.  They’re certainly better than others I’ve flown with but on the whole they’re not the greatest.




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« Reply #31 on: Monday, December 14, 2009, 22:35:56 »

flying out on the 20th now thanks to rich parents-in-law.

hope it gets sorted but sadly think it'll just make everyhing worse - the public won't support the strikes and BA won't cave.
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« Reply #32 on: Monday, December 14, 2009, 22:36:19 »

That doesn't make sense. If it is so shit working at BA, why do so many people want to work there?, why is it so hard to get a job there (due to the competition for the jobs)? and why do people not want to leave their jobs?

jonny, it makes perfect sense. I know you enjoy being pedantic for the sake of it, but surely it's not that hard to work out?! Smiley

Firstly, you know as well as the next man, that you can enjoy your job, but hate the people or the company you work for.

Secondly, seeing as it obviously needs to be said, BA pay the highest wages in the industry and the perks are also by far and away the best.
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« Reply #33 on: Monday, December 14, 2009, 22:45:46 »

Secondly, seeing as it obviously needs to be said, BA pay the highest wages in the industry and the perks are also by far and away the best.

And that is obviously unsustainable. Duh.
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« Reply #34 on: Monday, December 14, 2009, 22:48:19 »

And that is obviously unsustainable. Duh.

Evidently. But they wrote the contracts.
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« Reply #35 on: Monday, December 14, 2009, 22:56:33 »

Secondly, seeing as it obviously needs to be said, BA pay the highest wages in the industry and the perks are also by far and away the best.

I really don't get it. You said BA are "complete cunts" then that they pay the highest wages and give the best perks, how does that work?

To be honest, I really don't give a fuck either way as the strike won't affect me. I just don't see the point in striking and feel sorry for the actual workers who will ultimately pay the price for it as it will eventually result in lower pay, worse conditions and more job losses. Or do you think the strike will actually improve profitability at BA?

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« Reply #36 on: Monday, December 14, 2009, 22:57:34 »

No sympathy for the cunts. BA cabin crew are paid a fucking fortune compared to other airlines. And at this time where people are getting laid off left right and centre they should be fucking grateful for their jobs and the fact that BA arent making shed loads of redundancies.

And Yes, I do have flights booked during the strike period.

And yes, both my parents worked for BA as flight/cabin crew
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« Reply #37 on: Monday, December 14, 2009, 22:59:21 »

Anyway I would rather have a job with less money than no job at all. This strike, if it goes ahead will only make the problem alot worse and make the situation alot worse for the poepl who are actually striking.
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« Reply #38 on: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 01:33:32 »

management scum will cave in - the workers will triumph
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« Reply #39 on: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 01:58:00 »


Everybody loses; lower market share, poorer profitability and eventually a smaller workforce.
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« Reply #40 on: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 02:53:03 »

Don't see how you can all claim BA staff get shit on seeing as they earn millions more than the equivalent jobs with any other mainstream airline.

Fuck em, hope they all lose their jobs... at least hold off striking till NY or get it over with now and not ruin thousands of peoples Xmas holidays.
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« Reply #41 on: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 08:55:21 »

Don't see how you can all claim BA staff get shit on seeing as they earn millions more than the equivalent jobs with any other mainstream airline.

Fuck em, hope they all lose their jobs... at least hold off striking till NY or get it over with now and not ruin thousands of peoples Xmas holidays.
indeed. They will only make matters alot worse by pissing off the paying customers at an important time of year.

The posties didnt get much sympathy when it looked like affecting the xmas post. the Cabin crew will get the square root of fuck all sympathy if they do strike.
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« Reply #42 on: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 15:49:07 »

That's a rubbish argument Leefer.

You go to work to earn your salary and any other benefits that you derive from it. That's it. There is no loyalty. The company you work for pays you your wages. That is the deal. It is the contract that you have made with them.

This isn't about 'beating the workers'. This is about:

BA is fucked. The poor hard done by employees can moan as much as they want but they are part of the problem. End of story.

Yep. And they have a pension deficit worth Billions. 

What the unions dont seem to get is that there is a strong possibility that BA could go bust and that the working practices and salaries that the union demand are part of the problem.  If BA go bust obviously that means no jobs, at best a severely reduced pension fund for them with potentially tens of thousands of connected jobs in suppliers etc to go as well.

Its so shortsighted its beyond belief. The reason staff dont leave BA is because its cushy as fuck compared to all other uk airlines it seems.
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« Reply #43 on: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 16:08:01 »

Yep. And they have a pension deficit worth Billions. 

What the unions dont seem to get is that there is a strong possibility that BA could go bust and that the working practices and salaries that the union demand are part of the problem.  If BA go bust obviously that means no jobs, at best a severely reduced pension fund for them with potentially tens of thousands of connected jobs in suppliers etc to go as well.

Its so shortsighted its beyond belief. The reason staff dont leave BA is because its cushy as fuck compared to all other uk airlines it seems.

You really want to look at the facts before spouting off....so what if its cushy..if you r happy to have a job that isnt carry on.....the fact is 94% of cabin crew voted to strike over Xmas tells you how bad they feel...last week 3 planes from America to the UK only had two cabin crew for 280 passengers...if you get your facts right they arnt striking over money...in fact the pilots have just took a 3% pay cut and cabin crew offered to do the same as long as other aspects ie working hours and pensions were honoured......the reason so many people are whinging is because BA are fully booked because cabin crew with BA are the best compared to cheaper options...too many companies are using  the recesion to streamline....at the workers expense,
The head of BA earns 800,000 per year and still collected his 200,000 bonus....its people like you groveling to management and bosses that ensures things dont change....saying that if your boss took a massive bonus while you took a paycut your outlook may differ.
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« Reply #44 on: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 16:22:48 »

I bet 94% just fancied a bit of time off over Christmas.
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