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« Reply #45 on: Tuesday, October 20, 2009, 17:02:08 »

So it doesn't mean CIA or MI5 agents then? That's no fun.
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« Reply #46 on: Tuesday, October 20, 2009, 18:11:29 »

Wouldnt it have been great if Reina saved the balloon
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« Reply #47 on: Friday, October 23, 2009, 19:47:44 »

The goal had just been voted 'Goal of the week' on SSN with 69% of the vote !! Grin

I think a few Man Yoo fans voted for that !!
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« Reply #48 on: Friday, October 23, 2009, 23:38:29 »

The quote where "outside agents" relates to players rather than an object (in this case a beach ball) is accurate, and is actually relates to the section in the laws of the game which is devoted to giving guidance to some interpretations.  The quote about an agent being a player or an official actually relates to Law 3 (number of players) and is there for quidance when a manager storms onto the pitch or a sub comes on without permission.

A more relevant interpretation relates to Law 2 (the ball) and reads:
If an extra ball enters the field of play during the match, the referee must stop the match only if it interferes with play. Play must be restarted by a dropped ball in the position where the match ball was at the time when the match was stopped, unless play was stopped inside the goal area, in which case the referee drops the ball on the goal area line parallel to the goal line at the point nearest to where the ball was located when play was stopped.

In short, a drop ball should have been given on the edge of the 18 yard box because an extra ball (beach type in this case) interfered with play inside the penalty area.

The referee probably didn't remember this because unless you are doing a match on Mannington Rec or some other "parks" level, the chances of having 2 balls on the pitch at the same time are pretty slim.  Not that that is an excuse for him - he messed up big time!
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« Reply #49 on: Saturday, October 24, 2009, 00:16:13 »

Who cares, being from the south I wanted both the northern teams to lose.
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« Reply #50 on: Saturday, October 24, 2009, 10:26:10 »

Who cares, being from the south I wanted both the northern teams to lose.

An attitude that does you credit.
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« Reply #51 on: Saturday, October 24, 2009, 10:49:58 »

Cheers, rich. That's the best and clearest explanation of the situation I've read all week - far and away better than all the pro pundits on TV/radio.
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« Reply #52 on: Saturday, October 24, 2009, 10:54:09 »

An attitude that does you credit.

The angry bloke in the pub last week would agree.
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« Reply #53 on: Saturday, October 24, 2009, 11:29:36 »

A more relevant interpretation relates to Law 2 (the ball) and reads:
If an extra ball enters the field of play during the match, the referee must stop the match only if it interferes with play. Play must be restarted by a dropped ball in the position where the match ball was at the time when the match was stopped, unless play was stopped inside the goal area, in which case the referee drops the ball on the goal area line parallel to the goal line at the point nearest to where the ball was located when play was stopped.

In short, a drop ball should have been given on the edge of the 18 yard box because an extra ball (beach type in this case) interfered with play inside the penalty area.

The referee probably didn't remember this because unless you are doing a match on Mannington Rec or some other "parks" level, the chances of having 2 balls on the pitch at the same time are pretty slim.  Not that that is an excuse for him - he messed up big time!

That's the first time I've heard anyone using that rule to explain why it should have been disallowed. I don't see how this rule can apply though as it is blatantly talking about another football rather than a beach ball so it would be a stretch to apply it in this case.

Also, are you sure it would be a drop ball on the edge of the penalty area? I thought a restart is only moved if the offence happens within the goal area (6 yard box), in which case play restarts on the edge of the goal area (not the penalty area). Not sure the chances of two balls on the pitch are that slim, I'd say its pretty common due to the widespread use of multiple balls in games nowadays.

I thought the consensus was it should have been disallowed under rule 5 - the power and duties of the ref, which says "the referee....stops, suspends or abandons the match because of outside interference of any kind". I'm not convinced by this rule applying either though. Its not a rule as such, more of a guidance stating the power of the referee and was it an outside influence - Reina had control of the beach ball and put it in the back of his goal, so is it any different to a keepers bag making it on to the pitch?

I reckon FIFA could do with adding a guidance note to the rules to cover this situation in the future.
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« Reply #54 on: Saturday, October 24, 2009, 11:35:46 »

another ball=a ball suitable for match purposes.not a beach ball
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« Reply #55 on: Sunday, October 25, 2009, 13:36:44 »

on the bright side soccer am cracked me up with their sky sports news exclusive regarding the ball signing for notts county and the walking out a few hours later.

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