Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today

[DV]

look at the goals conceeded on saturday.none of them are due to lack of pace on our part.all of them are due to poor positioning and losing markers.

...but...if they did have the pace they'd at least have half a chance of recovering from the poor positioning and losing markers.

[Arriba]

yeah and ifil does that often dv, in fairness to him.

 from the 5 goals conceeded on saturday,only the second might have had a chance of one of our defenders getting to the striker, after both morrison and greer were caught flat footed.

it appears to me they need to work on keeping their line and not losing their players.they have had plenty of chance to sort this in training and the pre season friendlies.
as a defender postioning is far more important than pace.infact our best defenders have not been the quickest imo.

[Dazzza]

Robbing Peter to pay Porky?

That’s the impression I get with the timing of the Trundle article in the adver today.  A 32 year old player on 10k a week on a permanent 2 year contract is not going to come cheap unless City really are that desperate to get rid of him that they’ll make up a massive percentage of his wages. I can’t see it happening to the extent where we can justify the shortfall unless Ifil’s wages are going to be used to make up the difference.

I do think he’s worth a punt but a 2 year deal is a commitment for someone of questionable fitness and if I stick my nose in the air I can smell the disturbing faint hit of eau de Curetorn-Thorpe lingering on the horizon.

[alanmayes]

yeah and ifil does that often dv, in fairness to him.

 from the 5 goals conceeded on saturday,only the second might have had a chance of one of our defenders getting to the striker, after both morrison and greer were caught flat footed.

it appears to me they need to work on keeping their line and not losing their players.they have had plenty of chance to sort this in training and the pre season friendlies.
as a defender postioning is far more important than pace.infact our best defenders have not been the quickest imo.

Very good observation,the other thing to add to this was that as a pair they were miles apart,
something that is very basic in the art of defending.As for Lescinel, he was wandering about looking
totally lost (Rabbit in the headlights impression) no concentration or awareness whatsoever.

Shirtliff really needs to get them working as a unit,with anticipation,concentration and communication the keys.

[Riddick]

Lescinal the new Casal? Looked alright/pretty good in pre season then in a competitive game go's to bits.

Ifil doesn't have the pace he had anymore in my opinion and i'd rather have a well organised slower defence than one with somebody who continues to make errors on a regular basis that cost goal scoring opportunities. I think his time is up but we shall wait and see i guess.

Lets see how we do defensively over the next 5/6 games before wishing the likes of vincent was back in the team.

[RobertT]

Taylor and Calderwood with Kerslake and Bodin, not much pace with those really.

[Arriba]

tim parkin,ross maclaren,jon gittens,tom jones played rightback a fair bit,phil king,none were that quick

[bigbobjoylove]

The strikers they were up against were much slower back then though weren't they? More old fashioned centre-forward types.

[Dazzza]

Regardless of Ifil’s pace and ability can we afford to be in the position where we only have three senior fit centre backs available?

Gordon Greer picks himself but it would be foolhardy if we were left with a selection of Lescinal and Morrison.  Lescinal is untried at this level and could easily go either way.  Morrison is making the step-up he still needs to be rested and brought through the season gradually rather than throwing him at the deep end which will ruin his confidence, which will be the case with a few more results like Saturday.

It’s easy to be over-the-top in these situations without knowing what exactly is going on at the club but the timing of this off the back of Saturday couldn’t be any worse and the way things stand we’ll have just as little cover downstairs as a Michael Jackson bedfellow.  I sincerely hope that there is cover on the way if Ifil is shipped out as another loss this week against Dongs and there will be very little pack to shuffle and  I can see us being in for a long hard few weeks.

[Reg Smeeton]

tim parkin,ross maclaren,jon gittens,tom jones played rightback a fair bit,phil king,none were that quick

Gittens was quick...he needed to be to cover his mistakes. Saw somewhere, can't think where a young player called Gittens recently, don't know if it's son of.

[MichaelPook]

Wilson states we have cover but I fail to see it myself ....

Morrison and Greer are both lacking pace .. Lescinel isnt particularly good and Hasney is miles away from fitness and also lacks pace

Doesnt suggest we will get a replacement for Jerel .... and that the money would help us get a striker ... we need more than one of those Danny! (and a decent left back .. creative midfielder too would help!)

Squad just paper thin for me

[tans]

do you want us to sign pook again fatters?

[Simon Pieman]

Compared to strikers, we've got fuck loads of defenders.

[RobertT]

The strikers they were up against were much slower back then though weren't they? More old fashioned centre-forward types.

Joachim? Gabbiadini? Andrew Cole?

[Spencer_White]

Lescinal the new Casal? Looked alright/pretty good in pre season then in a competitive game go's to bits.

No he does have some talent. I thought Casal looked crap in the friendlies. He was bumbling forward, trying really hard, not getting anywhere.

Lescinel does have a decentish touch. He just didnt have a clue what he was doing saturday.