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« Reply #10050 on: Wednesday, August 1, 2018, 15:44:34 » |
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I bet he's a really nice bloke. I don't hold any dislike to him personally, just his football philosophy.
so come on then , you can't leave it there!
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« Reply #10051 on: Wednesday, August 1, 2018, 15:58:18 » |
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Oh really?
You have to go back a very long way for a lower league finish.
Just in the last playoff spot and losing the six pointers if I recall correctly.
He was given a very decent League 2 budget to start with and had it increased. Most managers have to rebuild from nearly scratch these days, so the previous season's disaster holds little sway.
Many of the "failing" Swindon manager's inherited poor squads (either talent or morale or both) and were given no support or control or even salary, let alone any money for the team.
Flitcroft may not have made the top three worst managers (but he was not so far off) but in the c*** stakes I would place him third behind only MacMahon and the unparalleled Dave MacKay.
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« Reply #10052 on: Wednesday, August 1, 2018, 16:02:21 » |
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Cuntishness: High Performance: Average Playing style: Horrific
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« Reply #10053 on: Wednesday, August 1, 2018, 16:18:20 » |
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Oh really? He was given a very decent League 2 budget to start with and had it increased. Most managers have to rebuild from nearly scratch these days, so the previous season's disaster holds little sway.
We don't know the budget, but what we do know is that Flitcroft said at the time of his recruitment, we couldn't compete with the big hitters. The 4 sides promoted last season all had managers who'd been in place for a while.... Ainsworth and Coleman for quite some years, Jones at Luton 2 and a half.... Robbins, a seaon and a half including winning the Boycott trophy. Of the other sides reaching the PO's.... Exeter, Tisdale had been there years, The Cowleys at Lincoln had been there a while and won the Conference, even Nolan had half a season to look at it before 17/18. It isn't easy to come in cold and build a Div 4 promotion season.... Lou Macari couldn't do it. PB is clearly struggling with getting the balance of his sqaud right....
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« Reply #10054 on: Wednesday, August 1, 2018, 16:20:50 » |
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You can forgive a manager being useless, plus being continually undermined by both Chairman and his mate - Luke. Just a bad roll of the dice. It was hard to really dislike him - although I tried very hard.
What I cant forgive is a manager who repeats his mistakes from previous clubs, learns nothing, and is so far up his own arse he just cant see it - Flitcroft.
I honestly think hell be gone from Mansfield before Xmas.
I hope we, the fans, can summon up enough bile for his return to the CG.
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« Reply #10055 on: Wednesday, August 1, 2018, 16:24:56 » |
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We don't know the budget, but what we do know is that Flitcroft said at the time of his recruitment, we couldn't compete with the big hitters.
Flitcroft may have said this but Power said we had a top 5 budget, which makes sense, Luton, Coventry, Mansfield and A.N. Other. Who do you believe? Power who can distort figures occassionally or Flipflop who always distorts things so he is the hard done by one?
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« Reply #10056 on: Wednesday, August 1, 2018, 16:27:23 » |
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I don't think I have ever disliked a Manager more than Flitcroft. he is not our worst ever Manager though. I don't even like Brown, but he gets the bonus of following Flitcroft.
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« Reply #10057 on: Wednesday, August 1, 2018, 16:37:16 » |
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Flitcroft may have said this but Power said we had a top 5 budget, which makes sense, Luton, Coventry, Mansfield and A.N. Other.
Who do you believe? Power who can distort figures occassionally or Flitcroft who always distorts things so he is the hard done by one?
Lincoln, FGR were the 2 mentioned in earlier debates. So lets imagine we were around 6th highest budget, when Flitcroft bailed we were a point off 6th, so about par for budget. Chesterfield were reported to have a competitive budget.... got relegated. David Conn in the Guardian, said that Chesterfield had the 6th highest budget in Div 4 last season at 2 mill.
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« Reply #10058 on: Wednesday, August 1, 2018, 16:37:51 » |
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Looking at our managers this century, there have been very few who were likable or didn't come with baggage....
Andy King 20002001 Roy Evans 2001 Andy King 20012005 Iffy Onuora 20052006 Dennis Wise 2006 David Tuttle 2006 (caretaker) Ady Williams 2006 (caretaker) Paul Sturrock 20062007 David Byrne 20072008 (caretaker) Danny Wilson 20082011 Paul Hart 2011 Paul Bodin 2011 (caretaker) Paolo Di Canio 20112013 Fabrizio Piccareta 2013 (caretaker) Tommy Miller & Darren Ward 2013 (joint player-caretakers) Kevin MacDonald 2013 Mark Cooper 2013-2015 Lee Power 2015 (caretaker) Martin Ling 2015 Luke Williams 20152017 David Flitcroft 20172018 Matt Taylor 2018 (player-caretaker) Phil Brown 2018 present
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« Reply #10060 on: Wednesday, August 1, 2018, 17:04:14 » |
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Looking at our managers this century, there have been very few who were likable or didn't come with baggage....
Andy King 20002001 Roy Evans 2001 Andy King 20012005 Iffy Onuora 20052006 Dennis Wise 2006 David Tuttle 2006 (caretaker) Ady Williams 2006 (caretaker) Paul Sturrock 20062007 David Byrne 20072008 (caretaker) Danny Wilson 20082011 Paul Hart 2011 Paul Bodin 2011 (caretaker) Paolo Di Canio 20112013 Fabrizio Piccareta 2013 (caretaker) Tommy Miller & Darren Ward 2013 (joint player-caretakers) Kevin MacDonald 2013 Mark Cooper 2013-2015 Lee Power 2015 (caretaker) Martin Ling 2015 Luke Williams 20152017 David Flitcroft 20172018 Matt Taylor 2018 (player-caretaker) Phil Brown 2018 present
Maurice Malpas. Airbrushed from STFC history.
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Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don't you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don't you say something righteous and hopeful for a change? Crap!
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He headed a football.
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« Reply #10061 on: Wednesday, August 1, 2018, 17:39:04 » |
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Looking at our managers this century, there have been very few who were likable or didn't come with baggage....
Andy King 20002001 Roy Evans 2001 Andy King 20012005 Iffy Onuora 20052006 Dennis Wise 2006 David Tuttle 2006 (caretaker) Ady Williams 2006 (caretaker) Paul Sturrock 20062007 David Byrne 20072008 (caretaker) Danny Wilson 20082011 Paul Hart 2011 Paul Bodin 2011 (caretaker) Paolo Di Canio 20112013 Fabrizio Piccareta 2013 (caretaker) Tommy Miller & Darren Ward 2013 (joint player-caretakers) Kevin MacDonald 2013 Mark Cooper 2013-2015 Lee Power 2015 (caretaker) Martin Ling 2015 Luke Williams 20152017 David Flitcroft 20172018 Matt Taylor 2018 (player-caretaker) Phil Brown 2018 present
We had SIX managers in 2013!
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« Reply #10062 on: Wednesday, August 1, 2018, 17:49:45 » |
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We had SIX managers in 2013!
Yet only had 8 managers in total from 1902 to 1971 encompassing 2,742 games and 69 years!
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« Reply #10063 on: Wednesday, August 1, 2018, 17:56:58 » |
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Can't see if it's been said anywhere but Danny Rose at Mansfield has put in a transfer request, wonder why
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« Reply #10064 on: Wednesday, August 1, 2018, 19:09:15 » |
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Him and Flitcroft didnt get on at Bury either
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