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« Reply #15 on: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 14:04:23 »

it all depends on how you mean "produce".very few come through the various ages and establish themself in the youth team here.some do though in fairness.
as i said earlier in the thread,most will come from other clubs academys.our u16s have nearly all been released. players have been added from elsewhere to make up next seasons youth team.2 from coventry have off the top of my head.
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« Reply #16 on: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 15:59:00 »

My lad plays U7s and at a game a few months back against Highworth U7s, there were two scouts there, one from Swindon, one from Reading. Leaving aside the catchment areas etc, can't help but feel that U7s is just way too young to be scouting kids. I know if everyone else is doing it we have to too, but it just seems clubs generally are hoovering up kids way too young at an age when they should just be playing to enjoy the game
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« Reply #17 on: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 16:05:04 »

My lad plays U7s and at a game a few months back against Highworth U7s, there were two scouts there, one from Swindon, one from Reading. Leaving aside the catchment areas etc, can't help but feel that U7s is just way too young to be scouting kids. I know if everyone else is doing it we have to too, but it just seems clubs generally are hoovering up kids way too young at an age when they should just be playing to enjoy the game

Totally agree,all the enjoyment can be coached out of them at such an early age.

Were there any cubs or girl guides there?
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« Reply #18 on: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 16:28:57 »

My lad plays U7s and at a game a few months back against Highworth U7s, there were two scouts there, one from Swindon, one from Reading. Leaving aside the catchment areas etc, can't help but feel that U7s is just way too young to be scouting kids. I know if everyone else is doing it we have to too, but it just seems clubs generally are hoovering up kids way too young at an age when they should just be playing to enjoy the game

if you had a call, and your son was offered a trial would you turn it down?
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« Reply #19 on: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 16:40:38 »

My lad plays U7s and at a game a few months back against Highworth U7s, there were two scouts there, one from Swindon, one from Reading. Leaving aside the catchment areas etc, can't help but feel that U7s is just way too young to be scouting kids. I know if everyone else is doing it we have to too, but it just seems clubs generally are hoovering up kids way too young at an age when they should just be playing to enjoy the game
My grandson is currently training with Ferndale for next season's under 7's, they've been together since September.  The lads enjoy their hour chasing around on Saturday and cannot wait for some proper matches.  There is one lad there who is considerably in front of the others in terms of skill and ability - he has already been watched by a Swindon scout!!  He has a problem though, he wants to go to Chelsea!
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« Reply #20 on: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 17:03:36 »

My lad plays U7s and at a game a few months back against Highworth U7s, there were two scouts there, one from Swindon, one from Reading. Leaving aside the catchment areas etc, can't help but feel that U7s is just way too young to be scouting kids. I know if everyone else is doing it we have to too, but it just seems clubs generally are hoovering up kids way too young at an age when they should just be playing to enjoy the game

if you had a call, and your son was offered a trial would you turn it down?
It would depend on the conditions and what he wanted. But I wouldn't automatically say yes by any means. Don't think it's likely to be a dilemma I'm going to have to face in the near future tho tbh.

I wasn't criticising either the club or the parents of lads who do train with pro clubs setups at that age, more the system as a whole. There's three of Joe's team mates who train with STFC and they love it and it's improved their game and they've not come back with any "big I am" attitude (which to be fair I'm not surprised about as they're all nice lads and have good parents who'd stop that anyway), so no harm done, I guess. Just seems a bit young to me is all - let em play and enjoy it at that age, then worry about taking it more seriously when they're a bit older. Meh, maybe I'm old fashioned. Where's that wooden train set and spinning top?
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« Reply #21 on: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 17:20:09 »

clubs get talented kids in as young as possible as it gives them more time to develop them.a child cannot be offered a contract until the u9 age group. they get them in younger for development sessions then pick the better ones out of that group when they get to u9's.that way they can still play with their club teams until that age.kids at professional clubs do miss out on stuff like player of the year awards and team based stuff,but that goes with it.
there are positives and negatives for sure.
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« Reply #22 on: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 18:55:53 »

My lad plays U7s and at a game a few months back against Highworth U7s, there were two scouts there, one from Swindon, one from Reading. Leaving aside the catchment areas etc, can't help but feel that U7s is just way too young to be scouting kids. I know if everyone else is doing it we have to too, but it just seems clubs generally are hoovering up kids way too young at an age when they should just be playing to enjoy the game

Tyron was scouted a very young age as well, and he's not doing too badly for it!
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« Reply #23 on: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 20:44:19 »

My lad plays U7s and at a game a few months back against Highworth U7s, there were two scouts there, one from Swindon, one from Reading. Leaving aside the catchment areas etc, can't help but feel that U7s is just way too young to be scouting kids. I know if everyone else is doing it we have to too, but it just seems clubs generally are hoovering up kids way too young at an age when they should just be playing to enjoy the game

if you had a call, and your son was offered a trial would you turn it down?
It would depend on the conditions and what he wanted. But I wouldn't automatically say yes by any means. Don't think it's likely to be a dilemma I'm going to have to face in the near future tho tbh.

I wasn't criticising either the club or the parents of lads who do train with pro clubs setups at that age, more the system as a whole. There's three of Joe's team mates who train with STFC and they love it and it's improved their game and they've not come back with any "big I am" attitude (which to be fair I'm not surprised about as they're all nice lads and have good parents who'd stop that anyway), so no harm done, I guess. Just seems a bit young to me is all - let em play and enjoy it at that age, then worry about taking it more seriously when they're a bit older. Meh, maybe I'm old fashioned. Where's that wooden train set and spinning top?

The Dutch system picks them out young but avoids puttng them into a proper game environment for years.  The idea being that basic natural talent is clear at that age, and can be nurtured, whereas all the tactical stuff is very coachable once they are good footballers. 
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« Reply #24 on: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 21:32:51 »

My lad plays U7s and at a game a few months back against Highworth U7s, there were two scouts there, one from Swindon, one from Reading. Leaving aside the catchment areas etc, can't help but feel that U7s is just way too young to be scouting kids. I know if everyone else is doing it we have to too, but it just seems clubs generally are hoovering up kids way too young at an age when they should just be playing to enjoy the game

if you had a call, and your son was offered a trial would you turn it down?
It would depend on the conditions and what he wanted. But I wouldn't automatically say yes by any means. Don't think it's likely to be a dilemma I'm going to have to face in the near future tho tbh.

I wasn't criticising either the club or the parents of lads who do train with pro clubs setups at that age, more the system as a whole. There's three of Joe's team mates who train with STFC and they love it and it's improved their game and they've not come back with any "big I am" attitude (which to be fair I'm not surprised about as they're all nice lads and have good parents who'd stop that anyway), so no harm done, I guess. Just seems a bit young to me is all - let em play and enjoy it at that age, then worry about taking it more seriously when they're a bit older. Meh, maybe I'm old fashioned. Where's that wooden train set and spinning top?

The Dutch system picks them out young but avoids puttng them into a proper game environment for years.  The idea being that basic natural talent is clear at that age, and can be nurtured, whereas all the tactical stuff is very coachable once they are good footballers. 

Yep, In Holland up to the age of 15 I think they played 4 a side.

One defender, two midfielders and one striker - the players swap positions each week.
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« Reply #25 on: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 21:44:25 »

Tyron was scouted a very young age as well, and he's not doing too badly for it!

So when's Ty playing at Worldnet then?
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« Reply #26 on: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 22:12:26 »

My lad plays U7s and at a game a few months back against Highworth U7s, there were two scouts there, one from Swindon, one from Reading. Leaving aside the catchment areas etc, can't help but feel that U7s is just way too young to be scouting kids. I know if everyone else is doing it we have to too, but it just seems clubs generally are hoovering up kids way too young at an age when they should just be playing to enjoy the game

if you had a call, and your son was offered a trial would you turn it down?
It would depend on the conditions and what he wanted. But I wouldn't automatically say yes by any means. Don't think it's likely to be a dilemma I'm going to have to face in the near future tho tbh.

I wasn't criticising either the club or the parents of lads who do train with pro clubs setups at that age, more the system as a whole. There's three of Joe's team mates who train with STFC and they love it and it's improved their game and they've not come back with any "big I am" attitude (which to be fair I'm not surprised about as they're all nice lads and have good parents who'd stop that anyway), so no harm done, I guess. Just seems a bit young to me is all - let em play and enjoy it at that age, then worry about taking it more seriously when they're a bit older. Meh, maybe I'm old fashioned. Where's that wooden train set and spinning top?

The Dutch system picks them out young but avoids puttng them into a proper game environment for years.  The idea being that basic natural talent is clear at that age, and can be nurtured, whereas all the tactical stuff is very coachable once they are good footballers. 

Yep, In Holland up to the age of 15 I think they played 4 a side.

One defender, two midfielders and one striker - the players swap positions each week.

I've got nothing to add, I just noticed the multi-quote function is back and I want that first one to get so tiny you can't read it.
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« Reply #27 on: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 22:13:17 »

My lad plays U7s and at a game a few months back against Highworth U7s, there were two scouts there, one from Swindon, one from Reading. Leaving aside the catchment areas etc, can't help but feel that U7s is just way too young to be scouting kids. I know if everyone else is doing it we have to too, but it just seems clubs generally are hoovering up kids way too young at an age when they should just be playing to enjoy the game

if you had a call, and your son was offered a trial would you turn it down?
It would depend on the conditions and what he wanted. But I wouldn't automatically say yes by any means. Don't think it's likely to be a dilemma I'm going to have to face in the near future tho tbh.

I wasn't criticising either the club or the parents of lads who do train with pro clubs setups at that age, more the system as a whole. There's three of Joe's team mates who train with STFC and they love it and it's improved their game and they've not come back with any "big I am" attitude (which to be fair I'm not surprised about as they're all nice lads and have good parents who'd stop that anyway), so no harm done, I guess. Just seems a bit young to me is all - let em play and enjoy it at that age, then worry about taking it more seriously when they're a bit older. Meh, maybe I'm old fashioned. Where's that wooden train set and spinning top?

The Dutch system picks them out young but avoids puttng them into a proper game environment for years.  The idea being that basic natural talent is clear at that age, and can be nurtured, whereas all the tactical stuff is very coachable once they are good footballers. 

Yep, In Holland up to the age of 15 I think they played 4 a side.

One defender, two midfielders and one striker - the players swap positions each week.

I've got nothing to add, I just noticed the multi-quote function is back and I want that first one to get so tiny you can't read it.

sounds like a plan
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« Reply #28 on: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 22:13:45 »

My lad plays U7s and at a game a few months back against Highworth U7s, there were two scouts there, one from Swindon, one from Reading. Leaving aside the catchment areas etc, can't help but feel that U7s is just way too young to be scouting kids. I know if everyone else is doing it we have to too, but it just seems clubs generally are hoovering up kids way too young at an age when they should just be playing to enjoy the game

if you had a call, and your son was offered a trial would you turn it down?
It would depend on the conditions and what he wanted. But I wouldn't automatically say yes by any means. Don't think it's likely to be a dilemma I'm going to have to face in the near future tho tbh.

I wasn't criticising either the club or the parents of lads who do train with pro clubs setups at that age, more the system as a whole. There's three of Joe's team mates who train with STFC and they love it and it's improved their game and they've not come back with any "big I am" attitude (which to be fair I'm not surprised about as they're all nice lads and have good parents who'd stop that anyway), so no harm done, I guess. Just seems a bit young to me is all - let em play and enjoy it at that age, then worry about taking it more seriously when they're a bit older. Meh, maybe I'm old fashioned. Where's that wooden train set and spinning top?

The Dutch system picks them out young but avoids puttng them into a proper game environment for years.  The idea being that basic natural talent is clear at that age, and can be nurtured, whereas all the tactical stuff is very coachable once they are good footballers. 

Yep, In Holland up to the age of 15 I think they played 4 a side.

One defender, two midfielders and one striker - the players swap positions each week.

I've got nothing to add, I just noticed the multi-quote function is back and I want that first one to get so tiny you can't read it.

sounds like a plan

You're on.
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« Reply #29 on: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 22:15:32 »

My lad plays U7s and at a game a few months back against Highworth U7s, there were two scouts there, one from Swindon, one from Reading. Leaving aside the catchment areas etc, can't help but feel that U7s is just way too young to be scouting kids. I know if everyone else is doing it we have to too, but it just seems clubs generally are hoovering up kids way too young at an age when they should just be playing to enjoy the game

if you had a call, and your son was offered a trial would you turn it down?
It would depend on the conditions and what he wanted. But I wouldn't automatically say yes by any means. Don't think it's likely to be a dilemma I'm going to have to face in the near future tho tbh.

I wasn't criticising either the club or the parents of lads who do train with pro clubs setups at that age, more the system as a whole. There's three of Joe's team mates who train with STFC and they love it and it's improved their game and they've not come back with any "big I am" attitude (which to be fair I'm not surprised about as they're all nice lads and have good parents who'd stop that anyway), so no harm done, I guess. Just seems a bit young to me is all - let em play and enjoy it at that age, then worry about taking it more seriously when they're a bit older. Meh, maybe I'm old fashioned. Where's that wooden train set and spinning top?

The Dutch system picks them out young but avoids puttng them into a proper game environment for years.  The idea being that basic natural talent is clear at that age, and can be nurtured, whereas all the tactical stuff is very coachable once they are good footballers. 

Yep, In Holland up to the age of 15 I think they played 4 a side.

One defender, two midfielders and one striker - the players swap positions each week.

I've got nothing to add, I just noticed the multi-quote function is back and I want that first one to get so tiny you can't read it.

sounds like a plan

You're on.

I'm sure ben will get annoyed and delete all this at some point
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