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« Reply #15 on: Monday, March 16, 2009, 13:55:44 » |
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So what is wrong in having an opinion that differs from yours?
Try actually reading the thread.
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« Reply #16 on: Monday, March 16, 2009, 13:58:02 » |
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Like the same old people texting in like John Trollopes noisey neighbour and so and sos magic hat and all that crap!
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« Reply #17 on: Monday, March 16, 2009, 14:01:17 » |
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Totally see what you're saying Ben but too risky with the language that could come out live on air. Least with texts they can filter through the bad language. I'd like to see more player interviews post match so they can account for why they've been shit/not up to scratch. They could ask people to text in their questions and then give them a good grilling live on air.
They used to do phone calls all the time though didn't they? Texts and emails are a relatively recent invention. To be honest, if Fitton and co can't take some angry texts when they're pretty close to getting us relegated and decide that they'll give up and go, then they'll probably fuck off sooner rather than later anyway. Yeah, lots of the texts are pretty retarded. But I don't think us magical internet group TEF experts are in some mystical position where nobody else can realise that. If Fitton can't realise that some of them are clearly spouting bollocks, then he probably doesn't have the intelligence needed to run the football club.
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« Reply #18 on: Monday, March 16, 2009, 14:10:55 » |
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They used to do phone calls all the time though didn't they? Texts and emails are a relatively recent invention.
To be honest, if Fitton and co can't take some angry texts when they're pretty close to getting us relegated and decide that they'll give up and go, then they'll probably fuck off sooner rather than later anyway.
Yeah, lots of the texts are pretty retarded. But I don't think us magical internet group TEF experts are in some magical position where nobody else can realise that. If Fitton can't realise that some of them are clearly spouting bollocks, then he probably doesn't have the intelligence needed to run the football club.
I can see what your saying ben but it's pretty obvious thing's can get to him,remember the deluded comment he made about the fan's,So he can take thing's to heart which to me it proves he does care about the club and the fans view's. perhaps he should be a bit more like forest's chairman or hartlepool's or maybe even the ex villa guy doug ellis.
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« Reply #19 on: Monday, March 16, 2009, 14:24:10 » |
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There's nothing wrong with him saying where he thinks some fans are wrong, but that's a far cry from packing it in and fucking off because of some nasty words. We're on the brink of relegation at the moment, he should be able to take a bit of flak.
I don't know enough about Doug Ellis or the other chairman to get what you mean in the last bit.
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« Reply #20 on: Monday, March 16, 2009, 14:39:50 » |
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I agree they are muppets that don't go to games and sit and listen to RS and then text in moaning when they don't know what went on, but to be fair under freedom of speach then nothing can be done. Erm, yes there is, those of us that did go to the game can text in as a counter-balance. Which is what I was suggesting
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« Reply #21 on: Monday, March 16, 2009, 14:42:08 » |
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What i meant by the other chairman is they tend to have thick skins and dont care what the fan's think.The calderwood saga for an instance, they kept quiet on the whole matter and kept the fan's in the dark what was going on as for the poolies their chairman has no interaction with the fans at all.
They shrug off any criticism aimed at them by the club's fans where our chairman tend's to let it bother him or did, maybe he's learnt from his outburst last time i dont know.
Im not saying he would fuck off but it could give him cause to.
In theory would it not bother you if you was in his position and you had just saved the club from certain closure.
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« Reply #22 on: Monday, March 16, 2009, 14:42:18 » |
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There's nothing wrong with him saying where he thinks some fans are wrong, but that's a far cry from packing it in and fucking off because of some nasty words. We're on the brink of relegation at the moment, he should be able to take a bit of flak.
Yeah, of course he should. But if all you hear is unremittingly negative about the team, the club and your own investment when you've sunk in somewhere north of £8m just to get the damn thing going again, it's going to get to you isn't it? It's not the moaning that's the problem - like you say, if you're too sensitive to that, don't buy a football club - it's the lack of balance
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« Reply #23 on: Monday, March 16, 2009, 14:46:40 » |
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it's the lack of balance
Yes and although the Adver/BBC RS texts don't help things, surely they aren't listening to these as the only source of fan feedback. I realise you are not on the committee any more, but do they also engage with other fan groups such as the Trust and Supporters Club, etc, etc? I'd hope so.
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« Reply #24 on: Monday, March 16, 2009, 14:57:10 » |
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I think we should all text in as Pauld 
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« Reply #25 on: Monday, March 16, 2009, 15:01:22 » |
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I realise you are not on the committee any more, but do they also engage with other fan groups such as the Trust and Supporters Club, etc, etc? I'd hope so.
It's one of the areas I would criticise the board for, they rely too much on informal feedback loops ie having a chat when they see you about how things are going, rather than setting up (as was suggested) regular liaison meetings to get a broad range of feedback. Don't get me wrong, if we wanted to meet to discuss a particular issue, the door was always open, but I'd still say there's a place for meeting with (say) the SC, the Trust, Disabled Supporters and whoever else to be honest once a month to just chew the fat. No particular agenda, no burning issue, just "How are things going?", "XYZ is becoming a problem", "We're thinking of launching an initiative to promote such and such, what do you think?" etc. Maybe too much work for already overloaded schedules etc, but I'd have thought it could only help tbh
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« Reply #26 on: Monday, March 16, 2009, 15:03:41 » |
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Also. What makes you think people at the game are going to be any more positive?
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« Reply #27 on: Monday, March 16, 2009, 15:07:06 » |
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Try actually reading the thread.
The thread suggests that people who were at the game should only text in with positve comments. Who is to say the people who do text in have not been to the game. If you have watched tripe it is your right to have your say even if it does upset Pauld and others.
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« Reply #28 on: Monday, March 16, 2009, 15:07:18 » |
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All depends how we play.
I we do alright against Southend (which i think we will, its hereford, northampton etc that worries me) then I'll text in something positive.
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« Reply #29 on: Monday, March 16, 2009, 15:20:08 » |
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Whilst i dislike a lot of the content of the texts,especially before the Leeds game,i really don't like the way that the presenter reads them without having preread any of them.As a consequence he fumbles through some,especially predictive texts and the whole thing is very unprofessional.
I'm all for getting feedback from fans,especially those who've been to the match,but there has to be a better way than it's done at present.
Paul's idea of regular meetings by club officials to "chew the fat" is an excellent one,rather than when impending issues occur.
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