police punching young swindon fan saturday

[axs]

What replies have fucked you off?

Most of us admitted that we hadn't really seen what had happened, but that there was probably a reason why he had been singled out - which there was, and that the reaction from the stewards and police was too strong and unwarranted.

[Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG]

yours that says 'he must have done something wrong' and the ones saying 'i find it hard to believe' the police were just heavy handed.

what did the lad do wrong then axs to warrant being punched in the face? or even arrested for that matter?

[axs]

yours that says 'he must have done something wrong' and the ones saying 'i find it hard to believe' the police were just heavy handed.

what did the lad do wrong then axs to warrant being punched in the face? or even arrested for that matter?

You are mis-quoting me, I didn't say he did anything wrong - I said he did something to be singled out for attention - I can't tell you exactly what this was because as I said I did not see the incident close up but other accounts on here suggest he was interacting with the opposition fans, which the steward has reacted / overreacted to.

I am not for one moment condoning the actions that followed on the part of the stewards or police, whether the kid pushed  / hit the copper or not.

[Spencer_White]

I have to admit, I didnt see the lad get his head banged against the wall, that was something Paul said.

But I did see the black steward with his hands around the boys neck. And I did see the copper punch the boy (in tears) 3 times in the face, proper hard punches.

Strikes me that some people sit behind a computer screen for 18 hours a day, dont go and then assume they are always right. And axs, whats the point in saying who's fucked who off? It doesnt matter.

The point is we are all Swindon fans and people could have some respect? To be honest I felt the same way about some of the posts on here after Brian Hillier died.

[Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG]

he and god knows how many other swindon and leeds fans as well....no reason to even be singled out.

i think you've taken what i said as a personal insult axs, I’m simply talking about the deluded naive nature of some of these posts that’s pissed me off.....do you people live in the real world?

i posted on a leeds forum this morning which reading red appears to have found as well. As much as I do hate leeds fans, the replies from their fans show what people with a fucking clue would think.

[axs]

I have to admit, I didnt see the lad get his head banged against the wall, that was something Paul said.

But I did see the black steward with his hands around the boys neck. And I did see the copper punch the boy (in tears) 3 times in the face, proper hard punches.

Strikes me that some people sit behind a computer screen for 18 hours a day, dont go and then assume they are always right. And axs, whats the point in saying who's fucked who off? It doesnt matter.

The point is we are all Swindon fans and people could have some respect? To be honest I felt the same way about some of the posts on here after Brian Hillier died.

Reason I asked is because I was being called a cunt, I wanted be clear on how I had offended someone.

[axs]

he and god knows how many other swindon and leeds fans as well....no reason to even be singled out.

i think you've taken what i said as a personal insult axs, I’m simply talking about the deluded naive nature of some of these posts that’s pissed me off.....do you people live in the real world?

i posted on a leeds forum this morning which reading red appears to have found as well. As much as I do hate leeds fans, the replies from their fans show what people with a fucking clue would think.

Do you have a link to it, I would be interested to read it.

[pauld]

Bottom line is there's no excuse for three or four grown men, whether stewards/coppers or just cowardly pricks out to get their jollies by picking on kids to repeatedly punch a kid in the face and smash his head into a wall. That's just wrong, in any context

[yeo]

If you're going to start chucking insults about just because you dont like the replies you get on an internet forum i'd argue that you're the niave one.Id have to say ive some sympathy with your point,lots of us have made the probably incorrrect assumption that matey was probably asking for it.

[Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG]

Maybe I am naive.....naive to think that our fans would believe each other and stick together rather than assume that the authority figure was in the right and blame our own fans, despite it seeming unbelievable.

Seems we have more support from our Yorkshire rivals than some of our own fans with this one, pretty embarrassing really.

I’m not ‘chucking insults about’ as I’m not the sort of person to get into a stupid argument over the internet. But I’m of the opinion the sort of person who finds it hard to believe this sort of thing would happen is a bit of a cunt and very deluded and I’ve expressed that opinion.

[Nomoreheroes]

The bit about writing a letter because you were bored on Sunday was the bit I picked up on. Sounded more as if you were anti-establishment rather than doing it because of an injustice.

[yeo]

Thing is stevecollins lots of the people on here will have been going to football for decades without ever having had any bother from the Police, where as they will more than likely have seen many a young lad giving it large and thinking they're untouchable because they are part of a crowd so its not really that hard to understand when people initially come down on the side of the policeman.Im not saying that is right,but it is a fact.

[cib]

Next, a huge black steward and a copper pile down the stairs, against the flow of people leaving their seats and causing panic. The copper grabbed the lad by the neck, and the steward on the other side still had hold of him too. By now the lad was crying and he couldn't move. A guy from in the row in front of me very calmly got involved and had his arm round them both and was trying to reassure the lad.

I have to say, I didn't see the copper banging the kid's head as some people have said - although the lad was kind of stuck across the wall as he was being held on both sides of it.

Anyway, next thing, another copper piles down the terrace, with his truncheon in the air, knocks me and a kid to the ground and puts his arm round the second guy's neck and drags him up the terrace. Then a guy in a suit arrived - Head of Security I should think - and as I got up off the ground I lost my rag, told him and the steward that they were bullies and a fucking disgrace.

Thats about what i saw, kid in tears taken up the stairs, whilst another lad took a bit by the steward further down the terrace. Didn't see what provoked such a reaction or what had happened to the lad, but there must have been a reason for him being in tears. Totally unacceptable if he is a 15 year old lad, and I'm surprised by the reaction to it on here - I don't want to see any fan getting a kicking, let alone a town fan.

[Spencer_White]

http://www.waccoe.com/index.php?showtopic=155308

Leeds thread.

[Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG]

to answer you're point nomoreheros the reference was being bored was explaining why i was actually sending the form in despite knowing full well there will be a technical fault with all the cctv on that part of the ground when that incident happened.....not because i'm anti-establishment.

yeovil blue, i take you're point but even in that instance, had the lad had been doing that what happened would have been completely unacceptable, its completely irrelevant?

Some of you seem to be reluctant to believe that the biggest hooligans sometimes are the police and they cause more trouble than they prevent sometimes.

Some of you seem to think I’m angry by the reaction on here, I’m more disappointed.