Sack Wilson Talk Is Ridiculous

[Simon Pieman]

As was said in FourFourTwo, Wilson is hands on with the training now. If something is wrong in that respect then he is as much to blame. Maybe this is why he's never felt the need to have the same backroom team. For all we know Byrne and Williams collect the cones and nothing more.

The same magazine said Malpas didn't really handle training, so your point would make more sense with Malpas perhaps.

[Batch]

....and why on earth would Fitton be loyal to Dave Byrne of all people.

Answer me that please.

Because he thinks Byrne did a sterling job under difficult circumstances when Sturrock pissed off and that deserved some loyalty.

I don't know if that is still true, i.e. whether Wilson could bring in his own man if he wanted to. I  suspect he could. And I don't think Byrne is the problem myself.

[pauld]

I dont think Wilson is the main problem- i think it lies with the backroom and coaching staff.

Fitton seems incredibly loyal to Byne- this could well cost us our league one status. I honesty believe if Wilson would have brought in his own staff we would not be in the position we find ourselves

You keep saying this but come on - surely a far greater issue is a bunch of players who have consistently failed to perform under 3 different managers this season? I'm as impressed with Byrne's charisma and personal magnetism as you clearly are but even so I don't think he exudes quite so much influence as to single-handedly wreck a team that would otherwise be superstars. Fact is too many players in too much of a comfort zone and as Wilson said on Sat, not enough desire or pride in themselves, much less the shirt.

[alanmayes]

Listening to DW's interview after the game on saturday,you could tell how exasperated and fed up he
was with certain players not putting themselves on the line.This is reinforced with today's interview in
the Adver.I feel sorry for him,because he's put in a huge ammount of time and effort on the training ground.

I think it's a shame that Danny doesn't have a regular number 2/ assistant, as most managers work well in
tandem with somebody.

I've watched and talked with Byrne on quite a few occasions and whilst people like his straight talking
style,i still think that he works better with the young players.That to me is where his strength lies.He does
have a good eye for talented young players.

[ahounsell]

I'm always slghtly bemused by the journalists who point at Sir Alex as an example of the great success that comes from stable management, when I think it's actually an example of just how long you can stay in a job if you're really successful. A confusion between cause and effect. Wilson had 4 years at Shitty, very stable, and got ...... into the play-offs once. Martin Ling had fuck knows how many years at Orient and managed to get them from League 2 to the relegation zone of League 1. Stability is only the answer if the manager and coaching staff are good at the job.

But Ferguson wasnt successful at Man Utd to begin with, it took him 4 years to win his first trophy which is why it is often cited as an example of patience from the boardroom paying off.

As for Wilson`s record at City, it makes me laugh how some people disregard it so easily. In 4 seasons, they finished 9th, 7th, 3rd, and 3rd. Thats 2 play-off seasons not 1. In those two seasons they finished 3 points from automatic promotion once, and 1 point from auto the next. You simply cant be that consistent over that length of time unless the manager knows what he is doing.

What may be true of Wilson though, is that he may not be the ideal sort of manager for a fire fighting job taking over mid-season. His previous success has been built up over a period of time with his own squad.

This probably fits the profile that Fitton & co want in the longer term. There is clearly going to be a big rebulding job this summer whichever division we are in. I cannot see that we could attract a better or more experienced man than Wilson to undertake that job.

[Colin Todd]

Re: wilson at city.  We all know what happened when he left and they gave Tinnion the job. 

Reminds me a bit of England, post Sven.   You only realise sometimes that someone is doing a good job when some one much worse comes in and fucks it up very quickly.

[DV]

a bit like us, Sturrock & Malpas then!

[flammableBen]

No not like that at all.

[Don Rogers Shop]

My main worry about wilson is he rated monkhouse

[jayohaitchenn]

Monkhouse is an ok player.

[DV]

because im a nerd

Anthony McNamee - 0 goals 8 assists
Andy Monkhouse - 8 goals 4 assists
Sofiene Zaaboub - 0 goals 7 assists

[Don Rogers Shop]

Is that this year

[DV]

this season, league and cup...

[REDBUCK]

It's taken Paul T at Rovers over 5 years to first stabalise the team and then move them forward, he's just completed 200 games.
 

[Lumps]

As for Wilson`s record at City, it makes me laugh how some people disregard it so easily. In 4 seasons, they finished 9th, 7th, 3rd, and 3rd. Thats 2 play-off seasons not 1. In those two seasons they finished 3 points from automatic promotion once, and 1 point from auto the next. You simply cant be that consistent over that length of time unless the manager knows what he is doing.

So honestly would you be happy with that? Four years in this leauge never quite being good enough to get our of it?

I'm not sure you would be. I don't think i would be, and I'm pretty sure the board wouldn'y be.