Sack Wilson Talk Is Ridiculous

[cib]

We're getting through far too many managers.  I would not even start considering Wilson's position until Jan 2010, and only then if we were rooted near the bottom of Division Two.  I am reasonably confident he will come good as manager.  Hope he's here in several years from now.

Got to agree with that. People piss and moan that we've not had stability at the club for years with managers leaving regularly, yet they are more than happy to continue the trend if we get relegated. It this short-sightedness that has caused us problems in the past and hasn't really passed. Getting rid of Wilson won't make things any better and who would we replace him with?

Once we are relegated it wouldn't be exclusively Wilson's fault either, Malpas and Fitton have to side some of it, along with the players who have looked half-arsed. People, it seems, get on the back of the manager far too easy these days because there has to be a scapegoat for our ineptness. Many of us have expected far too much in such a short time since Fitton has taken over and unfortunately that has made our situation much harder to take. But I still think there is still time to get ourselves out of the shit we find ourselves in, stranger things have happened in football.

[Berniman]

sturrock did

Yeah, and Wilsons coaching the same shit nearly 2 years later!

[pauld]

I don't buy this "Sturrock got a silk purse out of a sow's ear with this squad". He got roughly the same core squad playing well enough to scrape out of League 2, then fucked off after a couple of months in League 1, far too early to judge how he would have managed a whole season of them running hot and cold at the higher level. Which is what they've been doing ever since.

[Batch]

Fuck all this chopping and chamging masnager every 10 minutes. Need to let Wilsopn hsave a go at building a team before getting rid.

[Berniman]

Fuck all this chopping and chamging masnager every 10 minutes. Need to let Wilsopn hsave a go at building a team before getting rid.

Had a beer or two Batch?

If not, you need a new keyboard as yours seems to have turned russian!

 

Speak to you in the morning!

[Simon Pieman]

I suspect the plan is to release more or less anyone who is out of contract and start the process of replacing them with youth team players, in addition to a few experienced pros.

It is easier to do this in L2, as there are only 2 relegation slots, and the standard lower, which gives the kids a bit of time to develop.

Whereas I suspect you're talking out of your anus once again.

[Peter Venkman]

Well I went out after the game and just got home without hearing any aftermath of shit pathetic txts on BBCRS.

No DW shouldnt go, he has inherited a totally unmotivational squad, they dont want to play for DW they dont seem to want to play for Swindon so ship them out ASAP, Danny has brought in a few good/ish players in Greer and Kanu, still too early to know about Razak, Lescinel and Tudur-Jones but DW does seem to be able to spot a talent as did AK.

Let DW bring in his own players in the Summer, as we hoped MM would last year but inevitable didnt, wether we stay up or not DW should be able to bring in his own players who he knows will play to his system and strategies which the current players obviously cannot...whether thats due to them not being intelligent enough to understand tactics or whether thats because they are just spineless fuckwits only out to collect their nice pay packets at the end of the week is pretty much irellivent, the point is they seem unable/unwilling to perform for Swindon so remove them and replace them.

I dont agree that we can replace 1st team players with youth players as they just are not close enough yet, with the exception of Morrison, yes Kennedy did well enough but Allen (who is very highly rated by the staff) showed he is miles away from being able to play for the 1st team, playing well at Youth level against Youth opponents is hundreds of miles away from playing 1st team against men who will bully, intimidate and general boss youngsters off the pitch at this level.

That is unless we have a budding Gazza or Michael Owen sitting in the youths...which we dont.

DW didnt inspire me when he took over at the club, but he is a decent manager as he showed at Barnsley and not doing badly at Shitty always being up and around the play off places, at Sheff Weds he got the sack for them being near the relegation places...he never actually got the relegated and that was after he guided them to 12th place in the Premiership the season before.

He even got a Premier Manager of the Month award in 2000, he did poor at MKD and he did get Hartlepoo almost the title in the year we came back up from the bottom division so he has a varied but mostly OK track record as manager.

The Hartlepoo game was awful, the players not playing how DW likes to play, against Cheltenham we had a bad day at the office (which yes has happened a lot this year) but thats hardly the managers fault if the players dont want to perform.

Against MKD we pretty much played them off the park with good attacking football, attractive flowing football, that gives me enough confidence in his ability to get us performing...if he is allowed to bring in the players he wants, who will perform how he wants them to (hopefully).

At the end of the day the manager isnt the problem, the problem is the players, they lack a willingness to perform and lack any motivation to play for Swindon...that and there have been several individual defensive errors that have cost us, by all the back 5 and usually they have been punished with us conceding a goal directly from it, Ifil, Brez, Smith, Kanyuka, Aljofree etc etc etc the list is endless.

We need stability at the club and hopefully DW is the man to provide it for us.

The run in is entirely in our own hands now, lets see if any players have the balls for the fight.

[Reg Smeeton]

Whereas I suspect you're talking out of your anus once again.

All I ever do is look at the facts and try and make some sort of sense of them...of course things don't have to work that way...as we don't live in a rational world.

In our present situation we know in all likelihood we'll be playing Div 4 next season....we know that Wilson has said no contract talks until we know where we're playing next season....but 2 youth teamers have been signed up.

We know that last season 9 youth team players were given pro contracts.

We know Fitton has said money wont be thrown at this project....we know there is a wage cap in L2.

Now when you consider these facts, it looks like an opportunity to get most of the deadwood journeymen off the books, and start to feed through the young players.

Of course it might be that the Board feel so humiliated by the balls up of getting us relegated, that they take a completely different view. We'll see.

[Simon Pieman]

The facts suggest Wilson wants the team to earn their contracts.

[Reg Smeeton]

The facts suggest Wilson wants the team to earn their contracts.

Facts suggest Wilson (if still manager) will be given a reduced budget and have to create a squad accordingly...we've still got a few under contract who must be relatively high earners, which is a problem, as they're not very productive players.

[Simon Pieman]

I'll agree to disagree then, because there's more assumptions involved here than anyone is making out.

[Berniman]

Spot on JJ!

[ronnie21]

Facts suggest Wilson (if still manager) will be given a reduced budget and have to create a squad accordingly...we've still got a few under contract who must be relatively high earners, which is a problem, as they're not very productive players.

He will certainly have a reduced budget, it's capped in L2 by the FL!

[alanmayes]

He will certainly have a reduced budget, it's capped in L2 by the FL!

It's the only Division in which this rule is enforced.Just out of interest does anybody know how
Peterborough got around this,when they signed the likes of Boyd, Maclean, Mckail-Smith and Joe Lewis?

They were signed for substantial fees along with Keats and Westwood from Walsall, on long contracts.

[Tails]

We're playing a lot better under Wilson, and it isn't his squad. We've all been quick to judge teams in the Premier League for chopping and changing and this is no different. If our fans are honestly calling for Wilsons head come the end of the season I will lose the very little faith I have in the clubs supporters. We seem to expect too much too soon.

In all honesty I can see Fitton saying fuck it and walking, and then we'll really see what he's done for the club. We need to get the mindset in that we're a small club with a shit load of problems that won't take a year to fix.