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« on: Tuesday, March 10, 2009, 22:10:00 »

I know I shouldn't of listened to the after match texts but so many against Fitton and Wilson, what are these clowns on? when does it actually become the players fault? firstly its Malpas...then Byrne and Williams...now Wilson and Fitton. 

I am sorry but am I the only one who has had enough of these fucking bottlers playing for our club? and think that the large part of responsibility for our failure lies at the feet of the players. 

I have faith in Fitton and Wilson to get us up the leagues just will need a big overhaul of the players in the summer. 

What do these people actually think would happen if Fitton walked? were in a recession theres not lots of potential investors saying I would love to invest in a failing football club that may never make money. 

Some of the people that texted in after that game should never show up again, you need to get a grip shit players = shit results it does not matter who the board or manager are.
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Rich Pullen

« Reply #1 on: Tuesday, March 10, 2009, 22:11:34 »

It's because we're a mess. Making the County Ground look presentable can only go so far. People pay to watch football and this season....?
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« Reply #2 on: Tuesday, March 10, 2009, 22:12:39 »

Fittons fucked up and I dont have much faith in the board to be honest.The fact that the last board were even worse doesnt make this lot better,neither does the fact that theres probably no other option.
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« Reply #3 on: Tuesday, March 10, 2009, 22:13:47 »

i agree with you on most parts but i do feel a little investment into the playing squad would not go a miss!
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flammableBen

« Reply #4 on: Tuesday, March 10, 2009, 22:15:28 »

It's a shame that the new boards fixing of the backroom stuff hasn't coincided with on pitch success. As I said in the matchday thread, I think that talk of Championship in three years has been more damaging than Malpas or fucking about appointing his replacement. I guess I'm presuming fans would have understood if Fitton had come out and said that it might take some time to sort things out and get it right. Although maybe not.
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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday, March 10, 2009, 22:16:22 »

I'm also right behind Fitton and Wilson.  But I'm not surprised that some of our fans are having a pop.  On current form, we're going down....and some of our fans will inevitably start looking for someone to blame.  The Manager and the Chairman are going to be near the top of the list.
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Rich Pullen

« Reply #6 on: Tuesday, March 10, 2009, 22:17:13 »

I think people associate takeovers (by people without dodgy links) with success. Fitton and his consortium are clearly in this for the right reasons - but they appear to be quite naive on the football side.

I couldn't run a football club.
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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday, March 10, 2009, 22:20:04 »

It's because we're a mess. Making the County Ground look presentable can only go so far. People pay to watch football and this season....?

Nothing to do with making things look presentable for me just having a club to support is enough, dread to think what we would be like in the current climate with the old board, would have to assume it would be very similar to Cheltenham though with us having to sell a lot and cling on to even existing.  

To vent anger away from players who have under performed for a 2nd season I feel is wrong and I find it hard to see what voicing anger at a board who without there funds we would not exist now and wont exist in the future.  Mistakes have been made but this summer we have a real chance to finally clear out some of the shit and build a good squad.
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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday, March 10, 2009, 22:23:27 »

I'd rather be in League Two than be AFC Swindon of the Western League - we all would.

I am pro-Fitton and pro-Wilson - However, promises were made and League Two was not one of them.
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« Reply #9 on: Tuesday, March 10, 2009, 22:25:35 »

If we were all feeling perfectly rational, the fans would cut Mr Fitton and other board members about 10 years of slack...simply because they rid us of Diamandis and put the club on a more sustainable financial footing.

But no one supports a football club to be rational.  I'm sure the board know and appreciate that.  They will be expecting the criticism.
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« Reply #10 on: Tuesday, March 10, 2009, 22:47:28 »

Right, I've calmed down after the game and FlammableBen will pleased to know I've had some cake, so I think I've got my rational and sensible head on...

There are a few reasons why Fitton and Wilson get stick. I'll talk about Fitton first.

The first reason why Fitton gets stick is because, just like every other football club we have a selection of fans who are thick, stupid, idiots and far too critical of anyone and everything and always want something to moan about. No matter what brilliant things Fitton does some of our fans will always find the smallest thing to complain about.

The second and in my opinion main reason is because we're a football club. To the casual arm chair fans we need to get through the turnstyles to make some money football is all that matters. Of course I'm happy that we have a stable club for the first time in ages but Johnny Unitedarmchair fan doesnt give a toss does he? Us being stable isnt going to motivate him to gte out of his armchair and come to the County Ground at all.

Doing up the CG and sorting out finances will only get you so far. To most people rightly or wrongly the on pitch situation is what matters. We've gone horribly backwards this season on the pitch. We've gone from a mid table L1 side to a L2 side in less than a year, no fan is going to be happy about that. No fan is going to enjoy the gash we've been servered this season.

Since Fitton has been in charge the footballing side of things has gone backwards at quite an alarming rate. I think Pullen said it best and in such a simple way.

It's because we're a mess. Making the County Ground look presentable can only go so far. People pay to watch football and this season....?

When people even some fans who have been going for years think Swindon Town Football Club they think the team, the players, the league, the results....not how much money did we lose last season, are we under our wage budget? fact is alot of people dont care about those things and just hope they take care of themselves.

The other point is, since old Roman the Russian took over Chelsea and bought instant success alot of people think 'takeover=success' and thats not the case. Fitton has alot of money which he is earnt, so fair play to him and the others but they arent going to pump loads of it isnt STFC. We are going to be signing players for 250k, 500k, 1m etc. Not for years, if ever again.

What with the cheap season ticket prices I expect alot of our 'fans' are in their first year recently. Their mind set will be 'takeover = money = buying players = success = winning = good football' and thats not the case.

I've mentioned time and time again this season that there is a crew of people I havent seen before who sit near me (...and also Tails and Dave) they are moany bastards and they didnt even turn up to Franchise, none of 7 or 8 of them. They wont be back next season, they expected better....why? expectation levels. Talking of the Championship were much too optimistic and stupidly for what ever reason people believed in them.

Again, if I'm being brutally honest the management situation hiring Malpas, the sacking of Malpas, the hiring of Wilson has all been piss poor. Say what you like but it took too long.

To vent anger away from players who have under performed for a 2nd season

I dont feel finishing 13th last season in our first season after promotion was under performing. I remember us playing well and getting some decent results last season?

I say this time and time again, thats what has annoyed me the most this season this squad was good enough last season for a mid table finish. Miguel Comminges only isnt the difference between 13th and 21st.

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Mistakes have been made but this summer we have a real chance to finally clear out some of the shit and build a good squad.

We had the same chance this summer but we barely got rid of anyone.

I feel a bit harsh critising Wilson because it still doesnt seem like he has been that long but the bottom line is, apart from Big Kev nothing has improved under Wilson. I think Reg pointed out, points wise he is doing worse than Malpas was.

Wilson has good pedigree as a manager but on the face of things he's had very little impact. On the flip Crewes new manager has got them alot of wins.

At the end of the day people pay to watch the football, alot will block out/not care about all the off field things and the fact is this season has been shit on the field and people want someone to blame, and its a chain

blame the players but Danny Wilson manages the players but the board picked Danny Wilson but they arent Danny Wilsons players but the board havent given him money to spend on his players.

Fitton & Co raised our hopes for STFC. Perhaps we need to accept we wont go anything above mid table L1 for a very long time.

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Doore

« Reply #11 on: Tuesday, March 10, 2009, 22:57:08 »

I said a similar thing on the matchday thread but feel the need to reiterate here.  This club needs stability.  The short memories of some surprise me greatly.  I remember just a few years back being at a game at Brentford (the season we just survived later that season, invincibile, rovers and all that...) and not being sure that next week we would even have a football club.  Relegation or not, we need stability.  It's been lacking at this club for years.  Let the current board get on and run the club fiscally and let Wilson build his own team on the pitch, again within the fiscal management of the board.

I'm still enjoying the fact that the stories in the newspapers of administration, liqidisation, lock outs etc have not mentioned us for a couple of years now.  Lets remember that and view this period as a long term rebuilding project.  If that involves relegation, then so be it.
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« Reply #12 on: Tuesday, March 10, 2009, 22:59:57 »

Harping on about the past and admistration,etc annoys the fuck out of me.Do do we have to be gratefull all the way to the conference?
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« Reply #13 on: Tuesday, March 10, 2009, 23:06:49 »

I don't think paper talk of a "consortium worth x hundered million" helped much. Expectations were raised that we had become the Chelsea (or is that Man City) of league 1. But the truth of the matter is we don't have X hundred million available to the football club. We are at our or over playing budget limit now.

I don't think dicking around while changing manager was helpful either.

But strangely I feel more at ease with Wilson in charge but sitting in the relegation zone than I did with Malpas in charge when we were out the drop zone. Long term anyway. I think we are probably fucked this season.
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« Reply #14 on: Tuesday, March 10, 2009, 23:19:11 »

I think people are going over the top with criticism.

The board have made mistakes, and Wilson hasn't come in and made everything perfect, BUT I'd say a lot of it is down to the players. They lost all confidence under Malpas, and when Wilson came in he got them playing better football. We've seen much better performances recently. The problems are the crap performances scattered in between and the failure to stick the ball in the back of the net and finish a game off. I still think we have a great chance of staying up. Looking at this set of fixtures we could easily do the same as last season and make a nice break away from the drop zone:
Hereford (H)
Northampton (A)
Yeovil (A)
Crewe (H)
Brighton (A)
Leyton Orient (H)
Carlisle (A)
Bristol Rovers (H)

Nothing is guaranteed, but every single one of those games is winnable and I think THAT spell will be the one that decides our fate.
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