Franchise and football.

[Kinky Tom]

And fair fucks to you. That's your choice and good luck to you for sticking with it.

If you ever do reach a level of success that sees your side and support effectively replaced, will you still feel the same about the club though?

Who knows?  I know I enjoy lower leagues but we all want success, at least all of us Town fans that still follow the team despite them being shit in the most part for the last 15 years will know we were there when it counted - most of us on here protested against previous owners because the club means so much to us - not sure the same could be said of dons fans if things turned sour?

[deltaincline]

I was going to wade in to the cock-sucking franchise scum myself tonight, but fellow town fans have already done our club and our supporters proud with some fucking well made arguments against a sustained attempt to gain credibility by MK's disgusting and repulsive cooze-lapping crew. Fucking well done lads

[BletchleyDons]

I was going to wade in to the cock-sucking franchise scum myself tonight, but fellow town fans have already done our club and our supporters proud with some fucking well made arguments against a sustained attempt to gain credibility by MK's disgusting and repulsive cooze-lapping crew. Fucking well done lads

Shame your contribution went and fucked it all up though!

[Simon Pieman]

Our previous Board had plans to move us to J17 of the M4. It was met by an angry reception. One of the Board members, we'll call him Mr Whippy, couldn't quite understand why we wouldn't want a shiny new stadium and a secure financial future (supposedly) 20 miles away.

It's situations like this which is why most fans are hostile towards McFranchise. If fans roll over and let it happen then it will. It's why I have respect for the Wimbledon fans who stayed and created a new team which could retain the passion of the hardcore fans rather than go to watch a new team somewhere else which had no passion to accompany it. They didn't have a choice in the end and the team is doing the right thing by earning the right to play at the levels they've played at, rather than buying a place directly.

[BletchleyDons]

Who knows?  I know I enjoy lower leagues but we all want success, at least all of us Town fans that still follow the team despite them being shit in the most part for the last 15 years will know we were there when it counted - most of us on here protested against previous owners because the club means so much to us - not sure the same could be said of dons fans if things turned sour?

The Wimbledon lads would still be there, as would a hardcore of followers who've grown into the club since the relocation.

The flip-side of success is a different animal altogether. It fucked up my football for nearly five years, and I know the support I gave Chelsea when times were really bad hasn't been missed for a second. If Swindon ever went as far returning to top-flight football, the increase in financial commitment alone would see you lose some of your old support while a bunch of newcomers jumped into their empty seats.

It's the way the game is now unfortunately. We don't live in the seventies and eighties anymore, I'm afraid.

[Simon Pieman]

I don't think there is any danger of us getting top flight football. So no need to worry.

[yeo]

I started following Swindon when I moved to the town,I was 16 and it was something to do,I fell into supporting them properly mainly by accident.Before that as a kid I went to Yeovil (non league) games. So I switched allegances as an adult,I dont think of myself as a plastic Swindon supporter so I im not really that different to this Betchley guy.

I might start support MK now they're doing well.

[Kinky Tom]

No we don't, but I've a feeling things will have changed again by the time Swindon will be knocking on the Prem door...

[BletchleyDons]

Our previous Board had plans to move us to J17 of the M4. It was met by an angry reception. One of the Board members, we'll call him Mr Whippy, couldn't quite understand why we wouldn't want a shiny new stadium and a secure financial future (supposedly) 20 miles away.

It's situations like this which is why most fans are hostile towards McFranchise. If fans roll over and let it happen then it will. It's why I have respect for the Wimbledon fans who stayed and created a new team which could retain the passion of the hardcore fans rather than go to watch a new team somewhere else which had no passion to accompany it. They didn't have a choice in the end and the team is doing the right thing by earning the right to play at the levels they've played at, rather than buying a place directly.

Good points, although those Wimbledon fans did have a choice and ultimately made it by starting a new side. Others simply couldn't let their old side go and made the move to Milton Keynes. Their choice also.

I've seen terrific arguments on both sides of the fence over the past few years, but my favourite came from a lad I know from Godalming who said he carried on turning up at Selhurst to watch Wimbledon after the FA Commission granted the move simply because it broke his heart to think of the players he idolised running out of the tunnel to an empty stadium, and if his hands were the only ones clapping them out then so be it.

[deltaincline]

Shame your contribution went and fucked it all up though!

You wish, sonny. Get back on momma's whiskerbiscuit before daddy wakes up.  

[flammableBen]

I started following Swindon when I moved to the town,I was 16 and it was something to do,I fell into supporting them properly mainly by accident.Before that as a kid I went to Yeovil (non league) games. So I switched allegances as an adult,I dont think of myself as a plastic Swindon supporter so I im not really that different to this Betchley guy.

I might start support MK now they're doing well.

It is the same if you ignore all the stealing a football club, over supporting the local non-league sides, which makes MK dispicable.

[Simon Pieman]

Good points, although those Wimbledon fans did have a choice and ultimately made it by starting a new side. Others simply couldn't let their old side go and made the move to Milton Keynes. Their choice also.

I've seen terrific arguments on both sides of the fence over the past few years, but my favourite came from a lad I know from Godalming who said he carried on turning up at Selhurst to watch Wimbledon after the FA Commission granted the move simply because it broke his heart to think of the players he idolised running out of the tunnel to an empty stadium, and if his hands were the only ones clapping them out then so be it.

I guess they did have a choice, much like you had a choice to carry on supporting Chelsea but didn't because the passion had gone.

No passion = no point, ergo no choice imo.

[BletchleyDons]

You wish, sonny. Get back on momma's whiskerbiscuit before daddy wakes up.  

Do you often masturbate in public like this? FFS stop pawing yourself and add something of some use to the thread.

[BletchleyDons]

I guess they did have a choice, much like you had a choice to carry on supporting Chelsea but didn't because the passion had gone.

No passion = no point, ergo no choice imo.

It wasn't so much a case of the passion going. It was the source of my passion that died. It's a bit like living with a bird you stopped loving some time ago. You still climb on it and do the business every weekend, but it's a soul-less performance that actually gets eclipsed by the lighting of the cigarette straight afterwards.

[BletchleyDons]

Right - That's me done and I'll piss off and leave you in peace.

To be fair, there's some good posters on here who've put their points over fairly well. Thank for having me on. Good luck in.your fight for survival. Well played yesterday.