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[Colin Todd]

Flash - Labour didnt start the global crisis but their policies of the last 11 years mean they've sure as hell made it that Britain will suffer worst than most in my opinon.  They fully deserve any blame that comes their way.

[spacey]

Yeah, I really miss the Tory government that was in charge the 16 years prior to that. Everything was fucking rosy back then. Why did people vote them out? It sure is a fucking mystery! I might need someone's help in explaining that to me. Never mind though, they'll get back in next time, and 10 years down the line we can all moan about them and vote Labour back in etc etc etc etc nuclear war, mutants, Mad Max scenario.

[Ardiles]

Yeah, I really miss the Tory government that was in charge the 16 years prior to that. Everything was fucking rosy back then. Why did people vote them out? It sure is a fucking mystery! I might need someone's help in explaining that to me. Never mind though, they'll get back in next time, and 10 years down the line we can all moan about them and vote Labour back in etc etc etc etc nuclear war, mutants, Mad Max scenario.

I agree completely.

http://thetownend.com/index.php/topic,31250.msg609142.html#msg609142

[Colin Todd]

Yeah, I really miss the Tory government that was in charge the 16 years prior to that. Everything was fucking rosy back then. Why did people vote them out? It sure is a fucking mystery! I might need someone's help in explaining that to me. Never mind though, they'll get back in next time, and 10 years down the line we can all moan about them and vote Labour back in etc etc etc etc nuclear war, mutants, Mad Max scenario.

OOOOH !  feel that witty satire.

[Summerof69]

Every Government normally has their good and bad points, but this Government is certainly leaving us with the biggest pile of shite EVER, and I cannot think a good point of this Government, unless you're a civil servant.

[Colin Todd]

Exactly. I might be a bit of a Tory at heart, but I'm a lot more anti Nu-Labour than I am pro-tory.

Past Goverments of all parties have royally fucked things up in the past, but the fact that the tories fucked up in the late 80's / early 90's dosnt mean that nuLabour are any less culpabable for the current situation.

Judging by the latest opinion polls a lot of people are going to vote conservative at the next election. I dont think thats because they have any great confidence that the tories will ride into town and make everything brilliant, more like just vote to get labour out and hope that the tories cant be as bad

[THE FLASH]

Exactly. I might be a bit of a Tory at heart, but I'm a lot more anti Nu-Labour than I am pro-tory.

Past Goverments of all parties have royally fucked things up in the past, but the fact that the tories fucked up in the late 80's / early 90's dosnt mean that nuLabour are any less culpabable for the current situation.

Tories will get in next time.........just as Labour did last time.

People get tired and fancy a change.

All cunts to me.....i vote but rarely take sides.

Just dont vote Tory as i do not like the ethic of why the party was started....end of.

Judging by the latest opinion polls a lot of people are going to vote conservative at the next election. I dont think thats because they have any great confidence that the tories will ride into town and make everything brilliant, more like just vote to get labour out and hope that the tories cant be as bad

[Summerof69]

Exactly. I might be a bit of a Tory at heart, but I'm a lot more anti Nu-Labour than I am pro-tory.

Past Goverments of all parties have royally fucked things up in the past, but the fact that the tories fucked up in the late 80's / early 90's dosnt mean that nuLabour are any less culpabable for the current situation.

Judging by the latest opinion polls a lot of people are going to vote conservative at the next election. I dont think thats because they have any great confidence that the tories will ride into town and make everything brilliant, more like just vote to get labour out and hope that the tories cant be as bad

All I know is my pension has been decimated, I'm paying twice the council tax what I did in '97, and getting less services and the NHS is a mess despite throwing loads of money at it, with hospitals a MRSA blackspot.

[pauld]

This is just the logical conclusion of the Thatcher/Reagan "the market is king" policies of the 80s. Sure Labour didn't help by extending "light-touch" regulation (ie no regulation), and there's been serial incompetence along the way by both parties, but the whole bunkum of the free market radicals of both parties has caused this shit. They've managed to introduce a kind of reverse socialism where they've privatised profit and nationalised risk - Thatcher and Reagan started it, Labour and Clinton/Bush failed to stop it or put in appropriate safeguards

[spacey]

Judging by the latest opinion polls a lot of people are going to vote conservative at the next election. I dont think thats because they have any great confidence that the tories will ride into town and make everything brilliant, more like just vote to get labour out and hope that the tories cant be as bad

That's exactly right. People voting for a government based on who they hate the most rather than who they think can do a better job. People are always going to hate who's in power the most, which is why it will just carry on and on and on, nuclear war, mutants, Mad Max scenario. Personally I could never bring myself to vote Conservative due to the fact that they are the spawn of the Dark Prince and despite their comfortable lifestyle, are jealous of the poor and needy. Seriously, the sight of someone in need of help from the state is enough to make them choke on their Fois Gras.

[Ironside]

May well be a controvertial post here - but I think he should get his pension - and should stop being made the fall guy...

Fact is that he also resided over many billions in profit that the bank made.  His takeover of ABN was done in a different economic climate and was a good deal at the time...

The GLOBAL recession has killed that - but let's be fair it was hardly Fred's doing !

Gordon Wanky Brown has far more to answer for - after all it was HIS policies that have helped to put us in this mess - but have we had even 1 apology from the Scottish tosser - of course not !!!

However even he escapes some criticism - as ultimately it was more what happened in the USA that has dragged everyone into this mess.......

Does that make you racist sheepshagger?

[Colin Todd]

That's exactly right. People voting for a government based on who they hate the most rather than who they think can do a better job. People are always going to hate who's in power the most, which is why it will just carry on and on and on,  Personally I could never bring myself to vote Conservative due to the fact that they are the spawn of the Dark Prince and despite their comfortable lifestyle, are jealous of the poor and needy. Seriously, the sight of someone in need of help from the state is enough to make them choke on their Fois Gras.

Agree about the nuclear war, mutants, Mad Max scenario.

But people dont always hate who is in power the most. The last 2 goverments have lasted 3 terms

[ronnie21]

All I know is my pension has been decimated, I'm paying twice the council tax what I did in '97, and getting less services and the NHS is a mess despite throwing loads of money at it, with hospitals a MRSA blackspot.

Have to say I have had a lot to thank the NHS for in the past four years, I feel it has improved considerably!!  Anyway, I am so disappointed - I thought this was a thread about Elliott!!

[Ironside]

Hahaha yes it was the tory's wot dunnit....hilarious.

[flammableBen]

The problem with the torys is that anybody who votes for them is horrible scum.