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« on: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 17:18:37 » |
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Would be my priority in Danny Wilsons boots...only my opinion and there too be shot down but Corr isnt the answer for various obvious fitness reasons and Paynter for me isnt good enough...i know he gets is fair shair of assists,but we need a bully who will dish it out...JPM put some great crosses in early yesterday that were waiting for a big front man to nod in..we had some decent build up play v Brighton but no end product,Coxy works hard but is always having to drop deep especially at home,with JPM,Mcmanee,Timlin and Jack Smith we have players who can put decent balls into the box...but theres never anyone there to use them...Peacock our best header of the ball is wasted chasing chickens in midfield...wouldve liked Grant Holt here,we need someone in the Henderson mould up front alongside Cox...in my opinion we really do need a front man with presence(and i dont mean Santa!).
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« Reply #1 on: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 17:32:42 » |
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Then im glad you're not in Danny Wilsons boots.
I didnt really read past the first sentence. A quick look at the League One table shows only Bristol Rovers have scored more than us in the bottom half of the table. Infact a few of the teams in the top half havnt scored as many as us. Millwall have scored less than us and are in 3rd.
Simon Cox is the leagues 4th top scorer.
On the flip side only Crewe and Cheltenham have conceded more than us. Hereford have conceded 6 less than us and the other side in the bottom four Leyton Orient have conceded 13 less than us.
That stats dont like and its clearly the defensive side of things that are letting us down.
As for Paynter, last few games hes played he has been shit I'm not going to disagree but overally he has been one of our better performancers and I dont get why so many people think he isnt good enough. We were sooo fucking toothless without him against Brighton we didnt even get a shot on target.
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« Reply #2 on: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 17:39:46 » |
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Defend from the front danial san. If the front two dont hold it up its puttin the defence under more pressure
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« Reply #3 on: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 17:48:34 » |
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If you didnt read past the first sentence DV you wouldnt have seen my reference to Paynter...i didnt see him register a shot v Crewe..fucking toothless with him,his temperament is shit and whines contstantly with his own players...not for me ime afraid....and why mention Cox?...i didnt slag him i just stated that i feel if we got a decent front man to play alongside him we would be better off.....fair enough if you like Paynter,but can you remind me of more than one match this season ware hes earned his money,may be at Pool ware he set up Coxys 3.....oh and he cant jump. He has his moments i grant you...but thats not good enough..we need a quality big front man and for me he isnt that.
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« Reply #4 on: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 17:49:50 » |
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Provided we hang on to Cox then a front man is the least of our worries, its the defence that needs sorting.
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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 17:50:55 » |
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I'd have thought up front was the least of our concerns...we need a new goalkeeeper, a new, old head, centre half, a left back and someone with energy and pace in central midfield.
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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 17:52:08 » |
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...and my point was as a team we are scoring enough goals but conceeding too many and I fail to see how getting another front man would change that.
Its our defence that is letting the team down. A striker is no way our top priority.
Paynter has earnt his money in all of the games he has played apart from Crewe, Peterborough and Carlisle. Compare that to Barry Corr who hasnt earnt his money since League Two.
Our strikers are fine and before we look at new front men we needed goal keepers, defenders, midfielders and wingers.
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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 17:53:38 » |
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Nil v Brighton,nil v Histon,nil v Crewe...its not just the defence.
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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 17:54:23 » |
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I agree with Leefer, but I'm not going to pretend it's for any footballing reason.
Signing attacking players is just more exciting, especially if they're foreign and have silly names.
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« Reply #9 on: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 17:57:00 » |
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Cash or cheque Ben!....dont agree with Reg about a keeper though,for me we have two decent keepers.
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« Reply #10 on: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 18:00:24 » |
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I agree with Leefer, but I'm not going to pretend it's for any footballing reason.
Signing attacking players is just more exciting, especially if they're foreign and have silly names.
I'd generally agree that signing players with foreign, silly names has much to commend it...we've gone backwards since leaving the Cocks without the Boob and Minge.
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« Reply #11 on: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 18:18:28 » |
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Peacock cannot head a football, well not accurately anyway.
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Oh and I think the reason Cox has dropped deep recently is because he's come to look for the ball i.e. we're playing too deep. Another striker won't change that. You could even see Ifil telling the team to push up against Brighton. Unfortunately everyone else looked half asleep.
I will agree we do need another striker though. As much as Sturrock can work the channels or run in behind the defence, he's too easy to defend against because he has the touch of a rapist. At least with Paynter he takes others out of the game, leaving others free. I've written off Corr because every time he looks like he's getting back into form he breaks.
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« Reply #12 on: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 18:35:41 » |
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I think we need a new striker. Cox and Paynter are our best two and clearly i would keep them both. But for that reason they need some competition. Cox is always the first name on the teamsheet which is fair enough given his goals but he may be starting to get a little too cosey. I don't rate Corr much. Think his time here is up. It just hasn't worked out. If he had managed to stay fit it could have been different. Sturrock is OK but if we are looking to progress in future years we need better quality strikers (no disrespect to Blair there).
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« Reply #13 on: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 19:16:36 » |
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Anyone know what Cox's goal ratio is without Paynter as his partner?
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« Reply #14 on: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 19:39:08 » |
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signing strikers is one of my favourite things ever.
I've heard a rumour that we're in for Chris Iwelumo. but keep it under your hats eh.
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