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[Rustle]

I'm surprised and pissed off in equal measures that we are still fucking around with appointing a new manager.

Nick Watkins was apparently a recruitment guru in a previous life and Andrew Fitton is an international busineesman who, presumably, knows a thing or two about how to appoint decent staff, yet they're both still fucking around seemingly unable to make a decision.

If this was happening under the devious-previous  board, everyone would be going off on one accusing them of incompetence.

I'm really worried that we're just trying to get someone in on the cheap. Too many names seem to get mentioned, they glow red-hot for a while, then just fade away. I've had nothing but respect for Fitton to date - still have, but he needs to pull his fucking finger out on this as we're flirting in the relegation zone and look like a club who cant afford to pay the wages of a half-decent manager.

 

Have you thought about how other clubs see us these day's, now we have board that are worth millions.It just maybe they are trying to hold Mr Fitton to ransom and just maybe he wont pay extortionate amount's.Mr fitton may have said i've had enough of this and gone back to a manager where no compensation will have to be paid.

It's not as if the new manager would be in charge tomorrow anyway,i dont really see what all the fuss is about by waiting a few more days.

[Berniman]

Have you thought about how other clubs see us these day's, now we have board that are worth millions.It just maybe they are trying to hold Mr Fitton to ransom and just maybe he wont pay extortionate amount's.Mr fitton may have said i've had enough of this and gone back to a manager where no compensation will have to be paid.

It's not as if the new manager would be in charge tomorrow anyway,i dont really see what all the fuss is about by waiting a few more days.

TBH I would have said exactly the same thing 3 or 4 weeks ago before all of the press releases that meant absolutely nothing were put out.

Yes AF seems like a good business man but how many busnesses do you see making random press releases stating what has been stated over the past 5 weeks and not expect clubs to hold us to ransom.  "one of the names will blow your socks off", "our next manager could cause the wow factor"

I'm sorry but the last 5 weeks makes no business sense whatsoever.

Hopefully after all this is done and dusted and the right man is in charge, AF will do what he has done so far, stand up and openly admit like he did with Mo, that mistakes have been made and that the club have learnt from it, that is all we can hope..

[RobertT]

It's taken me 6 weeks to appoint someone into a 25k a year job, i didn't save my department from near total collapse within the past 12 months or spend my own money investing in the systems so far, amazingly this has caused little more than "how's it going" from those interested.

This has no significane other than I would be crap at doing this football recruitment malarky I suppose.

[billy the fish]

the way i see if we may hae a better offer on the table ,i'm sure waiting a little longer won't hurt

[flammableBen]

I'm surprised and pissed off in equal measures that we are still fucking around with appointing a new manager.

Nick Watkins was apparently a recruitment guru in a previous life and Andrew Fitton is an international busineesman who, presumably, knows a thing or two about how to appoint decent staff, yet they're both still fucking around seemingly unable to make a decision.

If this was happening under the devious-previous  board, everyone would be going off on one accusing them of incompetence.

I'm really worried that we're just trying to get someone in on the cheap. Too many names seem to get mentioned, they glow red-hot for a while, then just fade away. I've had nothing but respect for Fitton to date - still have, but he needs to pull his fucking finger out on this as we're flirting in the relegation zone and look like a club who cant afford to pay the wages of a half-decent manager.

 

I don't mind us trying to get someone on the cheap. When I stood out the arkells protesting it was because the club was being run into the ground. If stability means not paying out the nose for instant fan gratification with the likes of wise/sturrock then fair enough.

I guess it's from that point of view that I find the lengthy appointment progress encouraging. A sign of ambition but on our own stability based terms.

Frustrating? Yes. But even if we really are back at square uno today, I'd say it was worth the fucking about for Fitton and co to approach the candidates who may have been a bit more work, even if it did result in failure. Even with hindsight I'd say it was worth the effort.

Would I be going mental in the same situation under the old board? Too fucking right I would. The current board aren't the old board though are they? They don't have the same record of incompetence of the old board, in fact their record so far shows the opposite. I'm willing to give them the time on this.

[deltaincline]

I don't mind us trying to get someone on the cheap. When I stood out the arkells protesting it was because the club was being run into the ground. If stability means not paying out the nose for instant fan gratification with the likes of wise/sturrock then fair enough.

I guess it's from that point of view that I find the lengthy appointment progress encouraging. A sign of ambition but on our own stability based terms.

Frustrating? Yes. But even if we really are back at square uno today, I'd say it was worth the fucking about for Fitton and co to approach the candidates who may have been a bit more work, even if it did result in failure. Even with hindsight I'd say it was worth the effort.

Would I be going mental in the same situation under the old board? Too fucking right I would. The current board aren't the old board though are they? They don't have the same record of incompetence of the old board, in fact their record so far shows the opposite. I'm willing to give them the time on this.

I agree with you, FB.

I'm pissed off with us fucking about, but I'm happy knowing that I can bitch about the club now it's in safe hands

[Rustle]

TBH I would have said exactly the same thing 3 or 4 weeks ago before all of the press releases that meant absolutely nothing were put out.

Yes AF seems like a good business man but how many busnesses do you see making random press releases stating what has been stated over the past 5 weeks and not expect clubs to hold us to ransom.  "one of the names will blow your socks off", "our next manager could cause the wow factor"

I'm sorry but the last 5 weeks makes no business sense whatsoever.

Hopefully after all this is done and dusted and the right man is in charge, AF will do what he has done so far, stand up and openly admit like he did with Mo, that mistakes have been made and that the club have learnt from it, that is all we can hope..

I agree with you on the press statements,but this could be Mr Fitton bending over backwards to please the fan's by keeping us informed,after all he did say we would always be kept informed over matter's since he took over the club.

Maybe some of his words like blowing socks off and wow were the wrong choice like you say,but i dont trust the adver, they could well be dramatizing what they get told or what they learn from the daily mail etc. 

[flammableBen]

I agree with you, FB.

I'm pissed off with us fucking about, but I'm happy knowing that I can bitch about the club now it's in safe hands

I bet you don't really.

[deltaincline]

I bet you don't really.

I fucking do, you cunt

[Power to people]

Have they forgotten we are battling relegation and have not won a game for a few months ?

So much for Money's release clause as some was spouting.

Pardew is available, forget Ince he will only stick around until something else come's along, or even Speed but if Sheff Utd wanted big compo before chances are they still do.

Let's go back to Dowie I'd be quite happy with him now.

The board cannot allow this to drag on too much longer, the manager needs to be in to asses the squad, crimbo is a key time and by Jan we could be adrift at the bottom if results go against us and we will be slightly less attractive.

Perhaps Fitton & Co need to lower their sights slightly.

What's the saying ? don't cut of your nose to spite your face ?

[swindon-chap]

Dowie!!!
Whoever put the bet on, keep the faith, my source may of been right after all!

[lambourn red]

I have a sneaking suspicion that Danny Wilson will get it a decent manager who always gets teams playing passing football has worked in all the leagues and likes to bring through youth so he ticks all the right boxes.

http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/wdp/sport/Wilson-makes-late-bid-Swindon-s-new-manager-Money-deal-stalls/article-562323-detail/article.html

[jonny72]

I think Fitton is living in cloud cuckoo land when he goes on about stability and getting a manager who will stay at the club long term. A manager will only stay at a club until something better comes along, so the only way our next manager will stay long term is if he is crap and we hover mid-table in the 1st. If he does well and we get promoted, he'll be off as soon as he gets an offer from a bigger, better club.

These days its seldom that a manager hangs around at a club for more than 2-3 seasons. I'd prefer we get the best manager even if that means he'll be gone in a season or two - it will move the club forward at least.

I see Sheff Utd have confirmed an approach for Speed and that they will let him go. Which begs the question of how much compensation they want. I can't believe it is that much given his age and current injury, £200k-£300k would seem reasonable as that is what we'd pay for a half decent player.

Its just crazy this is taking so long with so many decent managers out of a job at present, plenty of who could do a good job.

[Reg Smeeton]

I think Fitton is living in cloud cuckoo land when he goes on about stability and getting a manager who will stay at the club long term. A manager will only stay at a club until something better comes along, so the only way our next manager will stay long term is if he is crap and we hover mid-table in the 1st. If he does well and we get promoted, he'll be off as soon as he gets an offer from a bigger, better club.

These days its seldom that a manager hangs around at a club for more than 2-3 seasons. I'd prefer we get the best manager even if that means he'll be gone in a season or two - it will move the club forward at least.

I see Sheff Utd have confirmed an approach for Speed and that they will let him go. Which begs the question of how much compensation they want. I can't believe it is that much given his age and current injury, £200k-£300k would seem reasonable as that is what we'd pay for a half decent player.

Its just crazy this is taking so long with so many decent managers out of a job at present, plenty of who could do a good job.

 You're actually well wide of the mark with your first assertion....there are some managers because of their media profile can get to move on up, because of their name, whilst there are others who have a lower profile who just get on with the job.

 As an example consider Paul Ince...got a job in the Prem , because of his name, OK did a steady job in the lower leagues, but many have done that as well...compare to Simon Grayson at Blackpool, done a very fine job, in getting them up and keeping them up in what is now a very tough league....never gets a mention.

 What Fitton wants is a Grayson...an Ince would fuck off pronto and put you back to square one.

[swindon-chap]

Another example is Steve Tilson of Southend.