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Simon Pieman
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« Reply #30 on: Sunday, February 15, 2009, 11:56:22 »

Comparing the points total to 05/06 is going to be irrelevant. The main factor in our league 1 status will be getting results against the teams around us. We don't want to place our fate in other teams hands.
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« Reply #31 on: Sunday, February 15, 2009, 12:03:39 »

How many games do we have left, 19?
where will 57 extra point leave us?
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« Reply #32 on: Sunday, February 15, 2009, 13:45:43 »

Comparing the points total to 05/06 is going to be irrelevant. The main factor in our league 1 status will be getting results against the teams around us. We don't want to place our fate in other teams hands.

Not really, because season on season there are certain trends, in the distribution of available points...then there are subtrends, of which our main concern has to be our poor record against teams in the bottom four, which is dismal contrasted to teams in the top 4.

If we remained undefeated until the end of the season by drawing all our games, we'd probably still go down.  We need to be able to turn decent performances into wins, we need quite a few of them and the quicker the better.
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« Reply #33 on: Sunday, February 15, 2009, 13:50:19 »

The last 2 games have been away, against two good teams. Millwall likewise will be a tough game away.

Our survival will depend on how we perform at home.
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« Reply #34 on: Sunday, February 15, 2009, 13:50:57 »

Our survival will depend on us finishing on more points than 4 other teams.
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« Reply #35 on: Sunday, February 15, 2009, 13:51:22 »

I think we need to be a bit less negative about things. I'm hopeful this could be the start of an unbeated run, whereas Brighton, Hereford and Crewe have all lost 2 out of the last 3. Cheltenham have lost the last 3 straight, and even Orient who have the best form down the bottom of the table have lost one in that time.

I'm pretty confident that if we'd actually got to play some of our home games in the last few weeks we'd have more points to show for it.

I know I was less than enthusiastic about Wilson's appointment but he does seem to have got a few of the basics right and stopped the team from just falling apart when they concede in the way they were doing a month or so ago.

Before Christmas I'd sort of accepted we were down, now I've got a bit more hope.

I'm not sure how ANY fan can "accept" we were down before Christmas! That is ridiculous. How many times have we actually been in the relagation area this season?
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« Reply #36 on: Sunday, February 15, 2009, 13:58:08 »

I have said all season we will not go down and since wilsons arrival i have seen nothing but improvement
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« Reply #37 on: Sunday, February 15, 2009, 14:01:06 »

i keep changing my mind on if we will go down or not.currently i think we will be ok.
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« Reply #38 on: Sunday, February 15, 2009, 14:17:33 »

I'm not sure how ANY fan can "accept" we were down before Christmas! That is ridiculous. How many times have we actually been in the relagation area this season?

I'm not saying it was a cut and dried fact, fucking obviously it wasn't as I now think we might survive, but the run of results and the atmosphere of doom under Malpas had left me a bit resigned.

And the idea that you can't be a fan and also be a bit realistic is just bollocks. There were fucking thousands of us that went to the first home game of the Prem season pretty much accepting we were going to be there for just the 9 months or so. We all might have been hoping to be proved wrong but most of us weren't expecting to be.
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« Reply #39 on: Sunday, February 15, 2009, 14:52:09 »

Did you just compare the prem league season to this season ;-)
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« Reply #40 on: Sunday, February 15, 2009, 15:01:43 »

I'm not saying it was a cut and dried fact, fucking obviously it wasn't as I now think we might survive, but the run of results and the atmosphere of doom under Malpas had left me a bit resigned.

Bit of a contradiction in there as DW has had 6 games and we've got 6 points...whereas from MM's last 6 we got 8 points. Ergo if the run under MM left you resigned, then the present run should leave you  Suicide
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« Reply #41 on: Sunday, February 15, 2009, 15:08:20 »

Performances and the change in defence is totally different now reg.
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« Reply #42 on: Sunday, February 15, 2009, 15:12:30 »

Bit of a contradiction in there as DW has had 6 games and we've got 6 points...whereas from MM's last 6 we got 8 points. Ergo if the run under MM left you resigned, then the present run should leave you  Suicide

MM only achieved 9 points in his first 11 games which also included 4 home deafeats and a 5th in the league cup (after he stated the CC would be a fortress), not sure if correct, but it must be one of the worse runs for a manager of this club starting his first full season.

Malpas was also a joke.
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« Reply #43 on: Sunday, February 15, 2009, 15:25:50 »

We had one point less than we do now this time in 00/01 and we stayed up. Trends are good as a rough guide but football is unpredictable.
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« Reply #44 on: Sunday, February 15, 2009, 15:30:25 »

I'm not saying it was a cut and dried fact, fucking obviously it wasn't as I now think we might survive, but the run of results and the atmosphere of doom under Malpas had left me a bit resigned.

And the idea that you can't be a fan and also be a bit realistic is just bollocks. There were fucking thousands of us that went to the first home game of the Prem season pretty much accepting we were going to be there for just the 9 months or so. We all might have been hoping to be proved wrong but most of us weren't expecting to be.

Getting a bit angry there mate.....I wasn't insinuating you can't be a fan unless you live in a fairy land of unrealistic make-believe. I meant that there is being realistic in saying that we are in for a relagation fight this year (whoever is the manager) and then there is, as you put it, "sort of accepting" we are down. And having that "acceptance" and being "resigned" to it when there is still over half a season left is just mental, regardless of the situation at the club.

If we were top of the league in the same period, you wouldn't accept that we were going up would you? Look at Leyton Orient last year.
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