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« Reply #405 on: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 17:25:37 »

They may not have a democratic agenda, yet it is democracy itself that allows them to have that agenda. Should we not allow them to have their silly little party of bigoted cunts then we would be denying them freedom of speech which would be far from democratic and bring us down to their level.

I suppose there is no answer to please everybody, to quote:

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"It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried." Sir Winston Chruchill Feb 9, 1941

If it's good enough for Sir Winston, then it's good enough for me.

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« Reply #406 on: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 17:26:57 »

Exactly. And they have every right to do so. You can argue they're wrong, they're protesting against the wrong people etc, but it's the same argument as Griffin appearing in the first place - you might think they're wrong, but they have the right to be so. FWIW, I think they're bang on and more power to them.
       
  I'm afraid not.
They have the right to voice counter-opinion, to demonstrate and to protest. Once they operate outside the law (established by democratic process) then they relinquish those rights. Mob rule cannot be tolerated, even by the rag-tag leftist Kristallnacht wannabees we have seen today.
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« Reply #407 on: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 17:28:27 »

ok i will bite, Kristallnacht? do you actually know your history?
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« Reply #408 on: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 17:33:15 »

comparing a few hundred anti-fascist protesters with a night were there was  a coordinated attack on Jewish people and their property, 99 Jews were murdered and 25,000 to 30,000 were arrested and placed in concentration camps. 267 synagogues were destroyed and thousands of homes and businesses were ransacked. This was done by the Hitler Youth, Gestapo, SS.

stretching the point a bit i feel?
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« Reply #409 on: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 17:36:31 »

       
Mob rule cannot be tolerated, even by the rag-tag leftist Kristallnacht wannabees we have seen today.
A bit of pushing and shoving outside BBC TV is hardly on the same level as a nationwide state-sponsored anti-Jewish riot. I think you need to get a sense of perspective. Unless of course this is one of those arguments you picked up from casual contact with random members of the public and not your own opinion.
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BANGKOK RED

« Reply #410 on: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 17:45:51 »

I really am thinking that Hammer is Ironside.

Did he not turn up not long after Ironside was banned?
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« Reply #411 on: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 18:22:45 »

A bit of pushing and shoving outside BBC TV is hardly on the same level as a nationwide state-sponsored anti-Jewish riot. I think you need to get a sense of perspective. Unless of course this is one of those arguments you picked up from casual contact with random members of the public and not your own opinion.


 My perspective Mr. Davis is okay thankyou, although I did enhance it somewhat to invite your reaction, which really was quite poor. If you could refer to todays protests as a little 'pushing and shoving' then perhaps you do need those spectacles after all.
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« Reply #412 on: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 18:25:10 »

There are many reasons why BNP anger me so much, but these two are probably the most recent things they've said which have really made my blood boil.

  • They'd interviewed him on Radio One Newsroundbeat not long ago and he said something like 'British born ethnic minorities are welcome to stay but those born overseas are not', then stated that this is why BNP are not racist.
  • The European Election Campaign where they said all the dead soldiers who fought the wars would be turning in their graves because the country was giving up the freedom they fought for, which is ironic because they fought the Nazi party



I'm sure there will be people who fall for Griffin's bullshit tonight.
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« Reply #413 on: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 18:33:29 »

Didn't he go to a girls school?
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« Reply #414 on: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 18:34:49 »

Ive got to say think this is abit Harris, Amankwah....stuff over nought..................Griffin and his cronies have been on BBC loads of times whats different,,,,,Sinn fein were regulars so are many state leaders from abroad who make BNP look like angels....i applaud the BBC for once...800,000 people voted for them so they have a voice.
I for one long for the day when the hard working British person has a party it can relate to,because there isnt one at present and when that happens ignorance wins,,,that being the BNP.
I should say 800,000 was the euro elections.....if you think we are a racist country then your in for a shock when Britain is fully integrated in European policies you will see that we as a nation are tame compared to alot of countrys....but as a Euro block we will be seen as all the others.
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« Reply #415 on: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 18:37:50 »

There are many reasons why BNP anger me so much, but these two are probably the most recent things they've said which have really made my blood boil.

  • They'd interviewed him on Radio One Newsroundbeat not long ago and he said something like 'British born ethnic minorities are welcome to stay but those born overseas are not', then stated that this is why BNP are not racist.
  • The European Election Campaign where they said all the dead soldiers who fought the wars would be turning in their graves because the country was giving up the freedom they fought for, which is ironic because they fought the Nazi party



I'm sure there will be people who fall for Griffin's bullshit tonight.

Of course there will be.....but hopefully others who are thinking about giving them the vote will see the light after his act......not all British people are thick as shit.
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« Reply #416 on: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 18:40:06 »

I really am thinking that Hammer is Ironside.

Did he not turn up not long after Ironside was banned?
               
  You are quite welcome to think what you want Mex but I'm afraid you are wrong.
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« Reply #417 on: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 18:40:59 »

Columbo?
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« Reply #418 on: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 18:43:41 »

It'll be quite passionate/heated from all sides tonight and they need to give him a grilling that puts him on the ropes but the panel and audience can't get carried away this evening because that's just what Griffin is anticipating.
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« Reply #419 on: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 18:46:44 »

Using the names "Mr Davis" and "Mex" makes me think Hammer is an old poster under new guise.
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