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« Reply #390 on: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 15:57:42 »

Exactly whose 'premise' is it that the 'BNP will be exposed by being asked tough questions' ? That of an individual with deeply entrenched political views and red-tinted spectacles or that of the general public ?
Erm, that's the line the BBC and various media commentators have been using to defend their decision to ask him on Question Time. Assuming you mean me by the red-tinted spectacles thing (and my eyes are fine thanks) I've been arguing that it's a flawed premise and a crap argument. Do keep up.
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« Reply #391 on: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 16:17:12 »

Erm, that's the line the BBC and various media commentators have been using to defend their decision to ask him on Question Time. Assuming you mean me by the red-tinted spectacles thing (and my eyes are fine thanks) I've been arguing that it's a flawed premise and a crap argument. Do keep up.

 Erm. I was actually referring to any individual who may align themselves with that premise. Had I been referring to you then I would have quoted you directly. Do chill out.
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« Reply #392 on: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 16:19:57 »

Erm. Why do I suspect that you are Ironside?
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« Reply #393 on: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 16:20:22 »

Erm. Why do I suspect that you are Ironside?
No I'm not Smiley
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« Reply #394 on: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 16:22:29 »

i'll watch this later.
just because people find him and his party offensive,doesn't mean he shouldn't appear on a political debate.if he's so stupid and one tracked then he'll only be shown up for what he is surely?

those morons blocking the road and lighting flares etc are just as stupid as the bnp.some even have anti iraq-afghan war banners.something the bnp agree with them about.
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« Reply #395 on: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 16:49:46 »


those morons blocking the road and lighting flares etc are just as stupid as the bnp.
Just as Griffin has the right to appear on Question Time, so his opponents have the right to demonstrate their disapproval of him. Freedom of speech, innit?
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« Reply #396 on: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 16:50:40 »

Erm. Why do I suspect that you are Ironside?
   
  And actually I'm not either. My comments do not reflect my personal views but echo those which I believe I can guage from substantial random contact with members of the public. Support for the BNP cannot be mirrored by it's performance at an election, although ultimately, that is what counts. It is far more widespread than that. Yet, as with various political issues, our two-party populist-orientated political system has taken care of that.
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« Reply #397 on: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 16:56:28 »

Just as Griffin has the right to appear on Question Time, so his opponents have the right to demonstrate their disapproval of him. Freedom of speech, innit?

 they are protesting against letting someone have freedom of speech,and causing an obstruction in doing so.
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« Reply #398 on: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 16:58:03 »

They are protesting about an undemocratic party being given air time in a democratic political system
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« Reply #399 on: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 16:58:59 »

They are a democratically elected party, like it or not. This is what the BBC's rules state it must do, go and protest in front of number 10 and get them to change the law.
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« Reply #400 on: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 17:01:23 »

They are an undemocratic party that have been democratically elected, the protests are about freedom of speech, for all, if the BNP gained power how long would the democratic system last?
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« Reply #401 on: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 17:01:58 »

I think it's simpler than that.  They're protesting because Griffin's a cunt.
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« Reply #402 on: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 17:03:08 »

I don't think the BBC has a choice on this one.  As Nemo says they are an elected party, as abhorrent as their views and actions are.  I just hope Griffin is made to look like a fool tonight.
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« Reply #403 on: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 17:07:23 »

I think it's simpler than that.  They're protesting because Griffin's a cunt.
Exactly. And they have every right to do so. You can argue they're wrong, they're protesting against the wrong people etc, but it's the same argument as Griffin appearing in the first place - you might think they're wrong, but they have the right to be so. FWIW, I think they're bang on and more power to them.
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« Reply #404 on: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 17:08:04 »

The BNP are also allowed (and have) made party political broadcasts during election run ups.

The rules may suck, but they are the rules.
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