BNP Members List Leaked.

[BANGKOK RED]

Fair question GFM.

What if say, a white group living in a predominantly non-white area where becoming the vicitims of racism themselves, formed an association themselves would they be brand as racist? I don't think so (Except from the PC brigade)

[flammableBen]

Depends on the reason you were seting up a white police federation. If you had reason to believe there had previously been, and currently was, an institutional agenda against the individual interests of white policemen as a group, and that the such a White Police Federation could effectively fight against this as a union, then ace. But you're not, you want to start it because the darkies are allowed one so you want one too.

The British Straight White Man persecution complex is pretty pathetic. As a demographic our interests are served better than any other group in the country, whatever the Daily Mail tells you.

The drawing parallels between the BNP and minority interest group makes a nice bit of rhetoric, but it's bollocks isn't it. The "it's not fair why are they so acceptable" group you're making comparisons with don't want to persecute (violently) people of other races, or even people who just disagree with them.

[pauld]

And even if GFM's counter example were anything other than rhetoric, it still doesn't alter the fact that the BNP ARE racists. Saying "ooh, but look there's other things that might be a bit racist" doesn't mean the BNP are any less racist. Or less criminal. Or less loony come to that. It's a fairly crap distraction tactic but 4/10 for effort

[Colin Todd]

The British Straight White Man persecution complex is pretty pathetic. As a demographic our interests are served better than any other group in the country, whatever the Daily Mail tells you.

I disagree. Decades ago then this was obviously very much the case. In fact the country was set up to benefit "us"

However these days all minority groups be it though race, sexuality, whatever, have a form of representation, a campaign group. someone to stand up for them.  The white british straight man does not and as such his opinons can be ignored at times, despite thier views carring more in terms of numbers. 

Of course if your'e left leaning then I'll just get dismissed as a daily mail reading knee jerk specialist.

[sonic youth]

daily mail reading knee jerk specialist

[Colin Todd]

I cant read....... the pain from my knees causes me to lose concentration

[flammableBen]

I disagree. Decades ago then this was obviously very much the case. In fact the country was set up to benefit "us"

However these days all minority groups be it though race, sexuality, whatever, have a form of representation, a campaign group. someone to stand up for them.  The white british straight man does not and as such his opinons can be ignored at times, despite thier views carring more in terms of numbers. 

Of course if your'e left leaning then I'll just get dismissed as a daily mail reading knee jerk specialist.

But these minority groups aren't persecuting the white man, in the same way they've been persecuted. Your average WBSM(that stands for something else as well doesn't it?) may be losing the social advantage that he's had previously, but that's not persecution. Levelling the playing field is a good thing.

[THE FLASH]

But these minority groups aren't persecuting the white man, in the same way they've been persecuted. Your average WBSM(that stands for something else as well doesn't it?) may be losing the social advantage that he's had previously, but that's not persecution. Levelling the playing field is a good thing.

Did these guys set up the Average White Band in the 70's?



I preferred Supertramp!

[Colin Todd]

I agree a level playing field is a good thing, and so is minorities having a voice.

But the white man (in the vast majority at least) is not persecuting minorites these days and has not done for some time.

I cant remember what my point was

I blame Labour

[pauld]

I cant remember what my point was

I blame Labour

I think that was your point largely wasn't it. But none of this makes any difference to the core fact:
the BNP are racist scum. I think that's something we can all agree on - group hug.

[ghanimah]

And even if GFM's counter example were anything other than rhetoric, it still doesn't alter the fact that the BNP ARE racists. Saying "ooh, but look there's other things that might be a bit racist" doesn't mean the BNP are any less racist. Or less criminal. Or less loony come to that. It's a fairly crap distraction tactic but 4/10 for effort

No-one on here (aside from Ironside) are saying that the BNP are not racists, the point is, why is not the same criticism aimed at other 'discriminatory organisations such as the National Black Police Association as at the BNP?

It reminds me of the BrassEye sketch of 'Good Aids and Bad Aids', there's 'good racism' (of whites) and 'bad racism' (of blacks.)

[Gazza's Fat Mate]

No-one on here (aside from Ironside) are saying that the BNP are not racists, the point is, why is not the same criticism aimed at other 'discriminatory organisations such as the National Black Police Association as at the BNP?

It reminds me of the BrassEye sketch of 'Good Aids and Bad Aids', there's 'good racism' (of whites) and 'bad racism' (of blacks.)

Why can't I write brillaint post like this?

Oh and please don't inculde me in this group hug thing you gay lefty git

[Colin Todd]

That post is both homophobic and leftyphopic you white english hetrosexual (?) scum

[pauld]

No-one on here (aside from Ironside) are saying that the BNP are not racists, the point is, why is not the same criticism aimed at other 'discriminatory organisations such as the National Black Police Association as at the BNP?

The drawing parallels between the BNP and minority interest group makes a nice bit of rhetoric, but it's bollocks isn't it. The "it's not fair why are they so acceptable" group you're making comparisons with don't want to persecute (violently) people of other races, or even people who just disagree with them.

[ghanimah]

Pauld:

National Black Police Association (NBPA) chief Ali Dizaei has called for positive discrimination to be introduced into the police force.

http://www.personneltoday.com/articles/2008/10/28/48131/national-black-police-association-chief-calls-for-positive-discrimination.html

Discrimination is still discrimination. (as I said good racism and bad racism)