BNP Members List Leaked.

[LucienSanchez]

Why don't YOU tell us why YOU think they AREN'T.

Because he's busy at work...

[sheepshagger]

You really are think cunt aren't you.

I said in my first post yesterday that I didn't have time for a debate, I have a job to do. I'm busy today and not likely to be at home until late.

Briefly though, you tell me why you think (and Paul and all the other commie cunts knocking around here) what YOU think makes the BNP racist.

Nicely done Ironside - reverting to type again then....

Now why would I think the BNP are a racist organisation ?

Well Paul has mentioned a few reasons above - directly from your membership rules.  This clearly states that membership is not possible for anyone not "indigenous caucasian" - leaves a few races out wouldn't you think ?

Other ideas ?

Nick Griffin - leader - April 1998 received 2 year suspended sentence for inciting racial hatred.

John Tyndall -founder of the BNP - In 1986, he was convicted for incitement to racial hatred and sentenced to 12 months imprisonment. This is one of half a dozen convictions.....

Kevin Scott -North East Regional Organiser Convicted in 1993 for hurling a glass at a black customer in a pub.

Alan Gould - Waltham Forest Organiser - Was convicted in 2000 for racially abusing people in a local pub

Darren Hoy. April 2002 was sent to prison for 3 months for racially abusing people as they left an anti-fascist rally in Oldham.

That is just a few of the people....

On the parties manifest in 2001 they openly said that "native britons" would get priority in the job market over "non whites"

Mixed race relationships would be outlawed

Any "non white" who committed a crime would be thrown out of the country - no matter if they were born here !

Compulsary repatriation has now been dropped in favour of "voluntary" repatriation.  However if they come to power they "reserve the right" to consider forcible repatriation if not enough "non whites" take up their offer.....

These are a few reasons that I think the BNP are racist.

So come on Ironside - I have answered YOUR questions.....time to stop calling me a "cunt" and have an adult debate about it ?

[sonic youth]

time to stop calling me a "cunt" and have an adult debate about it ?

good luck with that.

[pauld]

Because he's busy at work...

Quite. Those crosses won't set fire to themselves you know

[flammableBen]

lower case t.

[Ironside]

You mean apart from the fact that it's led by and riddled with hardcore racists? Well, that's the whole point of the BNP - it was founded by and for "send em back, whites only" boneheads. Oh, and the fact that it's explicitly in your constitution:


In simpler language this is a party which is wholly about the Aryan/Norse heritage bullshit the Nazis were so keen on and membership is only open to white Anglo-Saxons(There are Jewish and Jamaican members Paul so that not true is it?. It is, according to its own constitution, wholly defined by its racism

Why do people like you have a problem with an organistaion that, if what you say is true, represents a specific ethnic group, in the case white people, yet we never hear you bleating on about the THOUSANDS of organisations that represent other ethnic groups, like black people? You never have a bad word to say about them but you jump on your bandwagon when the BNP gets a mention. Please explain?

Paul, you really haven't got a clue what they're about and just come out with the same tired old lines that may well have been relevant to the National Front in the 1970's but time has moved moved on. Suggest you update your opinions by speaking to some members and finding out what they're all about.

[sonic youth]

well, when we try to talk to you all we get is abuse.

[Nemo]

Paul, you really haven't got a clue what they're about and just come out with the same tired old lines that may well have been relevant to the National Front in the 1970's but time has moved moved on. Suggest you update your opinions by speaking to some members and finding out what they're all about.

You didn't read your own constitution then?

[Ironside]

Nicely done Ironside - reverting to type again then....

Now why would I think the BNP are a racist organisation ?

Well Paul has mentioned a few reasons above - directly from your membership rules.  This clearly states that membership is not possible for anyone not "indigenous caucasian" - leaves a few races out wouldn't you think ?

Other ideas ?

Nick Griffin - leader - April 1998 received 2 year suspended sentence for inciting racial hatred.

Guilty of a thought crime - welcome to communist Britain

John Tyndall -founder of the BNP - In 1986, he was convicted for incitement to racial hatred and sentenced to 12 months imprisonment. This is one of half a dozen convictions.....

True. He set up BNP as splinter of NF. Griffin wrestled control from him and has made the party much better. See how Tyndall had a few hundered members but Griffing has thousands? Tyndall is DEAD now.

Kevin Scott -North East Regional Organiser Convicted in 1993 for hurling a glass at a black customer in a pub.

No longer in the partyas far as I know


Alan Gould - Waltham Forest Organiser - Was convicted in 2000 for racially abusing people in a local pub

No longer in the party as far as I know

Darren Hoy. April 2002 was sent to prison for 3 months for racially abusing people as they left an anti-fascist rally in Oldham.

No longer in the party as far as I know


That is just a few of the people....

On the parties manifest in 2001 they openly said that "native britons" would get priority in the job market over "non whites"

Sounds like Brown's policy of British jobs for British workers doesn't it?  Or would it be the reverse of the latest law where its positively encouraged for employers to choose a ethnic candidate over a white candidate because they are black?

Mixed race relationships would be outlawed

Without looking, don't recall that one so might come back to it.

Any "non white" who committed a crime would be thrown out of the country - no matter if they were born here !

Not quite true as far as I can recall. I think you'll find that they said thet all foreign criminals will be deported. THAT is definately a policy I support.


Compulsary repatriation has now been dropped in favour of "voluntary" repatriation.  However if they come to power they "reserve the right" to consider forcible repatriation if not enough "non whites" take up their offer.....

They plan to use the existing government policy of assisted repatriation. A policy introduced by athe Tory's and expanded by ZaNULabour. Nothing new. The last part isn't right though.

These are a few reasons that I think the BNP are racist.

So come on Ironside - I have answered YOUR questions.....time to stop calling me a "cunt" and have an adult debate about it ?

YOU ARE STILL A CUNT!

And I'm back to work.

[BANGKOK RED]

He still didn't answer the question.

[sheepshagger]

Genius - pure genius !!


Guilty of a thought crime - Ironside passing this over as if it is nothing - did you know this "thought crime" was Griffin's  TOTAL denial of the holocaust !

I thought you might like to see a few of Griffin's "quotes"......

In 1996, Griffin launched a vicious attack on the Holocaust denier David Irving for admitting that some people might have died in the Holocaust. "True Revisionists will not be fooled by this new twist to the sorry tale of the Hoax of the Twentieth Century,"

In another article he said, "I am well aware that the orthodox opinion is that 6 million Jews were gassed and cremated or turned into lampshades. Orthodox opinion also once held that the earth is flat… I have reached the conclusion that the 'extermination' tale is a mixture of Allied wartime propaganda, extremely profitable lie, and latter-day witch-hysteria."

His take on gay men is not much different......

Following the bombing of a gay pub in Soho, in which three people died, Griffin wrote, "The TV footage of dozens of 'gay' demonstrators flaunting their perversion in front of the world's journalists showed just why so many ordinary people find these creatures so repulsive".

What a nice fella - and as racist as they come Ironside....

You are living in a very small bubble if you think that the BNP are not racist...

I think this has been proven and is undeniable - in fact the ONLY person on this forum that seems to think otherwise is you....

I guess that might just make sense given the number of members on here - you are a lone voice amongst many - bit like your BNP in the UK really....

I never thought you would be willing OR able to have a proper debate about this - and all you have done is proven the point.....

[BANGKOK RED]

I wonder if Ironside is reading this in 'hidden mode'

Just like he would have signed up for BNP membership in 'hidden mode'

[pauld]

Paul, you really haven't got a clue what they're about and just come out with the same tired old lines that may well have been relevant to the National Front in the 1970's but time has moved moved on. Suggest you update your opinions by speaking to some members and finding out what they're all about.

Let's put it more simply still:
* The BNP is led by proven convicted racists, many of whom also have convictions for violence/terror-related crimes.
* Its constitution is explicitly racist (notice you didn't address that, at all)
* A worryingly high number of its members have also been convicted for racist attacks, firebombings, and terrorism
* Its links with like-minded overseas organisations are with groups like the KKK, German neo-Nazis, white supremacists and Holocaust deniers (to be fair, they're not all racist groups, some are just terrorists - Nick Griffin famously went begging for funds to Gadhaffi at a time when he was funding the IRA)
* It defines itself primarily on the race question

We're not exactly talking about the WI here are we?
If it looks like dogshit and smells like dogshit, I know enough not to step in it.

[chalkies_shorts]

SECTION 2: MEMBERSHIP

       2) The indigenous British ethnic groups deriving from the class of ‘Indigenous Caucasian’ consist of members of: i) The Anglo-Saxon Folk Community; ii) The Celtic Scottish Folk Community; iii) The Scots-Northern Irish Folk Community; iv) The Celtic Welsh Folk Community; v) The Celtic Irish Folk Community; vi) The Celtic Cornish Folk Community; vii) The Anglo-Saxon-Celtic Folk Community; viii) The Celtic-Norse Folk Community; ix) The Anglo-Saxon-Norse Folk Community; x) The Anglo-Saxon-Indigenous European Folk Community; xi) Members of these ethnic groups who reside either within or outside Europe but ethnically derive from them.

Re v) I thought the BNP called us bog wogs and all that no surrender mallarkey or is that Combat 18 or some other bunch of nutters.
I think the point around an all white party is interesting. I see no problem that where you have special interest groups that exclude whites, Asians etc that you have exactly the white or Asian equivalent. Preferable, however, is integration rather than segregation. How are you supposed to understand other cultures if you cut yourself off?

[Lumps]

I would have thought that if someone was going to be arrogant enough to describe themselves as a genius in their signature line, they would take the time to make sure they fucking spell it right.