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Question: Who would You want?
Holloway
Ward
Boothroyd
Cotterill
Dowie
None of the above
Couldn't give a fuck
Byrne
Poyet

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« Reply #75 on: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 13:54:17 »

We need someone that can take this club forward and agreed a 'big name' does not always get sucess but they are usually a 'big name' for a reason, we need a clear out, there's certsin playuers that have to go as well.

Byrne talks a good game and yes he may be able to get results short term but I think long term he is not the man for the job, and we need someone that we beleive will consistently get results long term, even if they use us as a stepping stone for better things,  I'm sure he would get the same problems with player recruitment that Malpas had, he isn't known enough so players are not instantly attracted by him.

I'd like an outsider to come in with his own coaching team.

Remember though that Byrne was Malpas' No 2, and all the problems we've had this season (defence, GK's, Peacock a striker then a mid, Pook isolated, Ifil Isolated) did MM never speak to Byrne ( his No 2) and take his advise sometimes ?

I lay the problems with MM and his coaching team - he picked them

Sorry he may be a nice guy (judging on last night) but nice guy's don't always win the prize.
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« Reply #76 on: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 14:03:03 »

I've got to admit that my first initial reaction when finding out that Malpas had gone was "have they all gone?" Meaning Byrne, Williams & Glanville.

Byrne is likeable and all of this debate wouldn't be happening had we not equalised in the sort of dramatic fashion that we did.

I go by Fitton's comments and by them you'll probably come to the conclusion that Byrne doesn't really stand much of a chance (unless a dramatic change of form occurs but as already stated results are just one part of a few issues that have to be sorted).

As I've said throughout, I don't have a clue who will take it as all we've had to go by are a few quotes here and there.

What I do know, is that like everyone I would ideally like this sorted out sooner rather than later as it'll grow beyond tedious before too long!
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« Reply #77 on: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 14:35:43 »

Out of every name mentioned Jay, do you want Byrne, honestly?

Not one name that has been mentioned fills me with quivery excitement to be honest. Hollowhead is gas, Boothroyd plays boring football and Dowie is just plain shit.

At least Budgie would show a bit of loyalty, and he fits in with Fitton's idea of bringing youth through to sell.
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« Reply #78 on: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 15:09:20 »

Forget loyalty, Byrne has to shoulder some of the responsibility for Malpas's dreadful reign in charge after all he was part of that management team.  Enough of this Byrne love in, time to move on and bring in a proven management team.
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« Reply #79 on: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 15:13:36 »

Forget loyalty, Byrne has to shoulder some of the responsibility for Malpas's dreadful reign in charge after all he was part of that management team.  Enough of this Byrne love in, time to move on and bring in a proven management team.

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« Reply #80 on: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 15:18:58 »

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« Reply #81 on: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 15:19:21 »

I would hardly describe Malpas' reign as dreadful, we haven't changed under him. We were an inconsistant mid table league one side when he joined and we still are now. We have had far worse managers than Maurice.
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« Reply #82 on: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 15:22:54 »

I would hardly describe Malpas' reign as dreadful, we haven't changed under him. We were an inconsistant mid table league one side when he joined and we still are now. We have had far worse managers than Maurice.

You're opening up the proverbial can-o-worms there.

Although I agree generally. Malpas probably took us one step back as opposed to a side step, progress wasn't made and Fitton was right to act.

But we've had worse.
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« Reply #83 on: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 15:33:57 »

Not one name that has been mentioned fills me with quivery excitement to be honest. Hollowhead is gas, Boothroyd plays boring football and Dowie is just plain shit.

At least Budgie would show a bit of loyalty, and he fits in with Fitton's idea of bringing youth through to sell.

Does it really matter that Holloway managed Rovers or Cotterill managed Cheltenham, how you can say Dowie is sh!t I don't know, he has managed some decent clubs, and has a reasonably decent record of sucess as well I think, and I don't think Boothroyd plays poor football.....

Poyet is the one that interests me the most though - it would be a risk as he is inexperienced but the more I think about it the more I think the likes of Di Matteo, Keane, Zola etc who have little or no coaching experience and seem to doing decent enough in management, and Poyet is highly rated by some big players in the game who see him as a future manager - should we ignore him ?
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« Reply #84 on: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 15:50:01 »

Malpas may not necessarily have taken us too far back on the pitch (although I would disagree), it was taking us back off it. Fans need to believe in the manager and for the first time since King/Iffy, we didn't.
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« Reply #85 on: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 15:51:25 »

Does it really matter that Holloway managed Rovers or Cotterill managed Cheltenham

This is it. I'm not fighting for either Holloway or Cotterill to be installed but Cheltenham are not a rival, well, certainly not in my eyes anyway!

As for Rovers, I don't like them but I certainly wouldn't say they were significant enough in the rival stakes for us not to appoint one of their "legends", this rivalry is something that has reignited since we were in L2 and since they came up with us, I could guarentee it would disappear once one of us left the division.

However, if someone who had once formed an alliance with Oxford and maybe Bristol City came in I'd be unhappy.

These mumblings are simply based on my opinion and can appreciate how some would disagree.
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« Reply #86 on: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 15:53:49 »

P2P I agree with you about Poyet. A big name ex pro on a first job looking to make a name would excite me more than Dowie;

Crystal Palace, up thorough the play-offs, then relegated, got Charlton relegated and lead Coventry to a rather paldry 17th in the CCC. Spent millions wherever he has been and has generally been a flop. I don't see how you can't describe him as shit?
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« Reply #87 on: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 15:56:25 »

Why aren't Bryan Robson and David O'Leary on the list? Surely they'd be ace.
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« Reply #88 on: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 15:58:04 »

Someone mentioned Peter Reid for the job on the radio the other day!!  Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #89 on: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 16:00:41 »

Charlton he had 13 Premiership games in charge and then they appointed Les Reed a highly respected coach but that didn't work out did either.

Nobody has been able to sort out Coventry for years, Coleman is a good manager but he's having similar luck there... Dowie's Sky Blues won 20 of his 49 games but only drew 8.

He got the sack from QPR because their board are control freaks. QPR going forward were impressive against us this season and I don't think their was one attempt of hoof ball.

Dowie is only linked because he's unemployed, probably the same with Boothroyd.

I think this'll be more likely be a race between Holloway, Ward and someone not mentioned yet.
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