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nochee

« Reply #15 on: Monday, October 27, 2008, 21:53:49 »

what we need is something like this the only problem is filling it



http://www.cardiffcitystadium.co.uk/



Would love to see this kind of stadium and ideally on top of the CG...never going to happen though, is it!
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« Reply #16 on: Monday, October 27, 2008, 23:05:43 »

I think we'd be looking at something similar to Plymouth.
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« Reply #17 on: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 08:19:16 »

I still like the plans the Trust drew up

but then again I could be everso slightly biased
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Rich Pullen

« Reply #18 on: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 09:25:56 »

I think we'd be looking at something similar to Plymouth.

Minus the old Mayflower stand of course.

I was at Home Park last season shortly before I moved to the North East, the away fans were chanting, mocking the Mayflower with the usual "what the fucking hell is that" chant... when the singing died down all you could hear was the furious screeching of only one fairly large middle aged chap defending his beloved former terrace.

It was quite amusing.
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« Reply #19 on: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 09:34:47 »

I still like the plans the Trust drew up

but then again I could be everso slightly biased

Fred,

You should have heard Fitton on RS on Saturday afternoon saying that they see the CG as a gateway to the Town centre development...virtually exactly the same words the Trust used when they launched their plans.

I've got a sneaky feeling AF might have seen the Trust plans...
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« Reply #20 on: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 09:44:53 »

I think this is great news.  The County Ground's location cannot be bettered.  The club belongs in the heart of Swindon, not on its periphery.  Why would we want to relocate to a development site 5 miles from the centre of town (and probably 5 miles from a decent pub)?

Too much development in recent years has taken place on the edge of town, leaving a dead centre.  (Jean Saunders might even agree with that bit.)  Good to hear AF wants to keep us where we are.
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« Reply #21 on: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 09:50:49 »

Good news, I prefer the idea of a redeveloped CG.

I do wonder how it is going to be posssible to finance it though, even the trust plans looked unlikley to ever happen in my view (not a dig as such, they were a shit load better than the old boards)
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« Reply #22 on: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 09:52:10 »

I can't be arsed to walk further than the CG so this is good news indeed.
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« Reply #23 on: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 09:52:56 »

We should go retro.

Make it exactly like it was in 1989......
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« Reply #24 on: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 09:54:58 »

I would question how many fans really, truly wanted to relocate from the County Ground site? It's in such an ideal location for home and away fans alike.

Does this mean re-development is now officially near the top of Fitton's do to list?

I think it's important that we have a stadium to be proud of. I'm cautious of us building another generic stadium like all the rest though, abit of originality would be good.
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« Reply #25 on: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 11:07:52 »

Fred,

You should have heard Fitton on RS on Saturday afternoon saying that they see the CG as a gateway to the Town centre development...virtually exactly the same words the Trust used when they launched their plans.

I've got a sneaky feeling AF might have seen the Trust plans...
The new board have been sent a copy of the plans when they first got in and we have spoken to them about the plans, and about how they would need to be modified. For example, the planning/political landscape has moved on (e.g. we posited the idea of a community sports/leisure hub partly on rebuilding bits of the Oasis at the CG which is now being done elsewhere) and the new board are in a much better position to capitalise such a project so some of the stuff we proposed (e.g. flats in the side of the stand) may not now be necessary. The core of what we proposed though is still viable, but I'd think the current board could do it better than some of the assumptions we had to work on at the time. Which isn't to say that AF and co are in any way copying the Trust proposals - the bottom line is the reason those proposals gained so much ground with the council etc is that they made sense. AF/NW will look at all viable options and do the most realistic/best solution. If some of that follows the lines we suggested, it's because they've found similar factors as we did when we did our research. There's no copyright on common sense.
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« Reply #26 on: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 12:03:30 »

I would question how many fans really, truly wanted to relocate from the County Ground site? It's in such an ideal location for home and away fans alike.

Does this mean re-development is now officially near the top of Fitton's do to list?

I think it's important that we have a stadium to be proud of. I'm cautious of us building another generic stadium like all the rest though, abit of originality would be good.

As Nick Watkins put to me, the CG lease expires in 2011, we either need to renew the lease or find a new home. Obiously the redevelopment comes with the lease negotiations, but it seemed to me as if it was the preferred option.
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« Reply #27 on: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 12:07:10 »

As Nick Watkins put to me, the CG lease expires in 2011, we either need to renew the lease or find a new home. Obiously the redevelopment comes with the lease negotiations, but it seemed to me as if it was the preferred option.

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« Reply #28 on: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 12:26:46 »

As Don Rogers Shop put to me, Herthab is a cunt.
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« Reply #29 on: Wednesday, October 29, 2008, 16:13:28 »

As Nick Watkins put to me, the CG lease expires in 2011, we either need to renew the lease or find a new home. Obiously the redevelopment comes with the lease negotiations, but it seemed to me as if it was the preferred option.

They are having discussions with the council, and I'm sure they will be discussing the lease but the core thing though is the ownership model of the CG before they can discuss redevelopment, who will own the rights to the new CG, will the council be part funding, what about the covenent currently in place etc etc
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