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« Reply #15 on: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 12:24:17 »

Fair comment Reg. Share the concern and like I say the board won't be just going "Ah well, it'll all work out" either
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« Reply #16 on: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 13:00:35 »

  Fair enough, but the sooner some action is taken the better, whether this be new manager or new players..I'm sure a relegation scrap wasn't on the menu, that that is what we've now got....it is going to be very difficult for any manager, to get much out of the current crop of players.

I disagree, the current crop imo could easily turn this round with the right man and training staff behind them. Two new players on loan if finances allowed would of course be a plus, I do understand your posts about financial restraints, but surely Fitton wouldn't want this season to go down the pan, I'm sure they will spend if they have to, and they will change the management team if results do not improve otherwise this will be just a wasted twelve months in the plans.
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« Reply #17 on: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 13:56:05 »

If we forget finances I'm not sure where the loan signings are going to come from anyway. Premiership clubs are looking to loan out their young players where they think they will play but more importantly where they think they can get good coaching. Alternatively its on a favuor to a mate basis. I think we fail on both counts. This leaves us with the older out of favour option. Given that you could put Maldini in our defence and he'd look like cococ the Clown, I'm not sure this will work.
Instead of a loan option, I'd rather we made him work with what we've got and maximise the potential within the squad. We've got 9 defenders, 3 of which he's bought in himself and only 1 currently out injured.   Why would perming 4 out of 11 be better than perming 4 out of 9?
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« Reply #18 on: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 14:17:30 »

 We need a goalkeeper and a central midfielder...
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« Reply #19 on: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 14:18:08 »

When we were relegated in 05-06, we were bottom for ages. But by late february we had still allowed complacency to set in, and as a result we had the Rotherham game, and then the Forest game that basically buried us.

This season weve got a lot more complacency, because we think we are rich. We struggle against battling teams, the ones who are down with us (already lost to Cheltenham). And most worrying of all is the defence. You can see a season altering drubbing around the corner, and this time it looks likely to come in front of our own fans. How would we react if we did get beat 6-0 at home to Oldham or Scunthorpe or Leicester?

The signs point to a relegation in my opinion.

Malpas seems to like changing his own players, but he doesnt seem to like bringing players in. I think hes lost confidence in his own judgement after the summer signings and is shunning the market. If Malpas is to stay we need major defensive surgery. I would release Casal (weve been had by the agent) and (fat boy, cant handle it) Aljofree and look to the loan market.
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« Reply #20 on: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 14:20:26 »

fuck it i congratulate them, bit of abuse is about right, shows we actually give a shit. About time the team cared half as much as us.
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« Reply #21 on: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 14:21:17 »

Playing a settled defence and not chopping and changing it every week should be the number one priority.  Surely, everybody knows that a settled back four is a must for consistent results.

Left back is obviously the main problem position. Aljofree or Smith playing there isn't a solution.  Vincent may take a while yet to come back, if he does at all.  Letting Nicholas go, then Vincent's injury, then not playing a player much that apparently has trouble marking who cost money, is something of a disaster.  Timlin at left back, not a solution either.  Why hasn't this been sorted before now?  
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« Reply #22 on: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 14:28:02 »

We have 4 central midfielders and 2 goalkeepers. Fair enough Malpas was stuck with the keepers, but he's bought in 2 central midfielders. It's the same argument as the defence imo.

As CS said, we're not getting the most out of what we have already got. A couple of loan additions, or even permanent ones would not help us imo. They'd just fall into the same trap as our current crop.

It scares me even more now that we could get relegated. It's not a far fetched theory anymore. We're really that bad.
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« Reply #23 on: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 14:31:11 »

What odds we hammer northampton
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« Reply #24 on: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 14:32:14 »

if we do beat northampton the reason will be the fan abuse.
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« Reply #25 on: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 14:32:14 »

We have 4 central midfielders and 2 goalkeepers. Fair enough Malpas was stuck with the keepers, but he's bought in 2 central midfielders. It's the same argument as the defence imo.

As CS said, we're not getting the most out of what we have already got. A couple of loan additions, or even permanent ones would not help us imo. They'd just fall into the same trap as our current crop.

It scares me even more now that we could get relegated. It's not a far fetched theory anymore. We're really that bad.

Doing nothing isn't an option, we could be as good as gone by the end of November.
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« Reply #26 on: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 14:32:50 »

fuck it, I'll put my neck on the line.

we wont go down.

Our players are better than we are showing and I still believe we will turn the corner. I still think rightly or wrongly our best 11 is Brez, Smith, Ifil, Aljofree, Vincent, JPM, Easton, Peacock, McNamee, Cox, Paynter.

We need to put that team out and stick with it.

Ifil, Smith - King
Peacock - Iffy
Brez, Vincent - Wise
Aljofree, JMP, Easton, Paynter - Sturrock
Cox - found by Sturrock, signed by Malpas
McNamee - Malpas

Most of Malpas' signings have looked poor.

I still think we will stay up.
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« Reply #27 on: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 14:37:59 »

Doing nothing isn't an option, we could be as good as gone by the end of November.

Not disagreeing, I think it will help. But it's not the answer. We all know what the answer is (getting the players organised and playing to their potential - which is not relegation). I think inevitably that means Malpas needs to work a miracle or leave.
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« Reply #28 on: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 14:40:10 »

Thing is dv that team proved good enough for mid table we should of pushed on from that malpas made signings that have weakened us. Yes we may stay up but with malpas in charge we will not improve on last season.
fuck it, I'll put my neck on the line. we wont go down. Our players are better than we are showing and I still believe we will turn the corner. I still think rightly or wrongly our best 11 is Brez, Smith, Ifil, Aljofree, Vincent, JPM, Easton, Peacock, McNamee, Cox, Paynter. We need to put that team out and stick with it. Ifil, Smith - King Peacock - Iffy Brez, Vincent - Wise Aljofree, JMP, Easton, Paynter - Sturrock Cox - found by Sturrock, signed by Malpas McNamee - Malpas Most of Malpas' signings have looked poor. I still think we will stay up.
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« Reply #29 on: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 14:42:39 »

We definitely need a left back. We miss Comminges so much Sad
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