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« Reply #45 on: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 20:28:45 » |
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Actually Malpas has brought in 3 defenders, I forgot about Kanyuka. That's terrible.
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« Reply #46 on: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 21:26:21 » |
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Cant be arsed to read the lot but is there anyone with a season tickets whos not going who wants to lend? 
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« Reply #47 on: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 21:30:09 » |
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Borrow mine if u want, dont know how to get it to you though
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« Reply #48 on: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 21:39:25 » |
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Ill pick it up ,ive no work till wednesday. if your serious let me know where and ill sort it  you'd have paid me in 2 games then 
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« Reply #49 on: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 21:42:38 » |
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Yeah no worries mate will pm u tomorow or do a tans and dan jackson love in thread to arrange it.
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« Reply #50 on: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 22:11:04 » |
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At the time AF said he'd been impressed by their work...clearly AF had a certain budget for manager, which was shown by the quality of applicant interviewed....that budget will be taken up by paying off MM Given we don't know which applicants were interviewed, what they said/didn't say that ruled them in/out or indeed what (if any) budget they had for a managerial team, there's one hell of a lot of assumptions in there Reg. A few too many to be saying "clearly", for a start
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« Reply #51 on: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 22:21:50 » |
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I think it is a sensible suggestion to assume Fitton had a budget to work to when appointing a manager as all parts of the club structure has one.
Now that budget, if past selections are to go by, would have been fairly substantial as I doubt Wise, Poyet, Sturrock would have been cheap. I'm sure Malpas was a cheaper option than those named, especially considering that the support staff were already employed by the club.
There may well have been bigger names that applied/showed interest, but Fitton chose Malpas, rightly or wrongly.
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« Reply #52 on: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 22:32:09 » |
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I wasn't arguing that they didn't have a budget when appointing Malpas, more against the implicit assumption that it was small and Malpas was only appointed because he was the cheap option. Fitton's shown in the player signings he's made that he's prepared to spend if he thinks it's the right signing and there will be a decent ROI and I think the same applies to the manager
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Reg Smeeton
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« Reply #53 on: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 22:35:10 » |
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Given we don't know which applicants were interviewed, what they said/didn't say that ruled them in/out or indeed what (if any) budget they had for a managerial team, there's one hell of a lot of assumptions in there Reg. A few too many to be saying "clearly", for a start
Being a simple soul, I just went on the data released at the time that Micky Adams, Martin Ling and Dave Hockaday were interviewed along with MM. It was also stated that one candidate ruled themselves out on financial grounds.
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« Reply #54 on: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 22:36:40 » |
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on that note Brighton have gone longer without a win in the league then we have!
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« Reply #55 on: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 22:41:17 » |
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Being a simple soul, I just went on the data released at the time that Micky Adams, Martin Ling and Dave Hockaday were interviewed along with MM. Since when did speculation in the Adver count as "data" being "released"? It was also stated that one candidate ruled themselves out on financial grounds. Yup, remember that. Although it wasn't quite phrased like that iirc. And I'll reply the same way I do every time you drag this up - the way I read that, it was "clearly" implied that the problem was not so much the candidate in question's personal financial demands as that he wanted to spend his way out of the division. And you can drag out what I said the last three/four occasions we've revisited this one as to why I agree with Fitton that that's the wrong way to go about it, if the reasons aren't self-evident. You're building a house of assumption on a very thin sand of "data" here Reg, but I admire your persistence
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« Reply #56 on: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 22:56:51 » |
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I don't really get the point you're trying to make....it seems to me wholly reasonable, that if it's stated in the Adver, x and y were interviewed this is likely to be true.
As regards the candidate who priced themelves out, whether because of personal gain or needing funds etc, it does suggest a budget.
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« Reply #57 on: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 23:04:53 » |
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I don't really get the point you're trying to make....it seems to me wholly reasonable, that if it's stated in the Adver, x and y were interviewed this is likely to be true. But it wasn't stated as fact, merely as "among the candidates believed to be" type of thing. And irrespective of how it was phrased, have you read the Adver at all?  As regards the candidate who priced themelves out, whether because of personal gain or needing funds etc, it does suggest a budget. No, it suggests a clash of philosophy. As I keep saying Fitton's made it very clear he wants to build a sustainable Championship side, not buy temporary success at the cost of long-term instability. That doesn't mean he's not willing to spend, but that he wants to spend in the right way. And a manager who comes into interview saying "Right, I'm going to want x million to buy a new centre half, new midfield etc etc" is not going to chime with that approach.
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« Reply #58 on: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 23:08:41 » |
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Playing devil's advocate, what evidence is there to suggest Fitton would appoint Byrne and Williams as the management duo should Malpas go?
All these arguments are based on assumptions. They may appear sound, but they are assumptions. Unless you've heard directly from Fitton you're not going to get this evidence.
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« Reply #59 on: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 23:16:42 » |
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Fittons strict budget went when we got cox and mcnamee
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