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Spencer_White

« Reply #45 on: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 10:11:26 »

Its time everyone took a long look at themselves and decided what they want from this season. Do they want an easy season, mid table, nice pay packet every month? Or do we want to try and do something, get somewhere?
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flammableBen

« Reply #46 on: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 10:11:53 »

out of interest, is anyone else bothered that andy king was our last manager to have a full season in charge? admittedly this is partly because wise/poyet and sturrock scarpered but i don't want to go back to another season in new manager limbo

Yep. All the way back in 04/05. Parkin's last season. Bad.
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« Reply #47 on: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 10:20:38 »

1. We weren't shit a.t the back yesterday.

2. When were we good at set pieces?

3. 2 home league games Si, one against a team that beat Carlisle at their place yesterday.

1. I'm pleased with how it sounded yesterday. It seems like we've made a bit of progress and that's what I'm judging. I said after Leeds I wanted to see progress in the next 4 games. If it wasn't forthcoming I would then conclude he wasn't right for the job. If it was forthcoming I would conclude he could progress us on the field.

2. Irrelevant point. If we're crap at it then make it better. How hard is it to work on set pieces in training? Sounds pretty simple to me. Also, they clearly have worked on attacking set pieces because they do a silly corner routine this year that I have never seen before. It's comedy gold.

3. At no stage did we look like we wanted beat Colchester and about 70 minutes of the Leeds game was the same. If you don't want to win games you won't win them. We should have at least got a point out of the Leeds game. If we had the right attitude we would have.


I do not wish for Malpas to be sacked now, I'm simply pointing out the things that need putting right. If they cannot be put right then he needs to go. When will that time be? I guess it all depends how long I think it takes to work on these issues.
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flammableBen

« Reply #48 on: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 10:22:08 »

How long do you think it takes to work on these issues? And do you start counting from when he was appointed, the start of this season, or now?
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Spencer_White

« Reply #49 on: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 10:22:39 »

1. We weren't shit a.t the back yesterday.


We werent at Hereford either. Another shit team.

I admire your defence of the team. But I hope the playing staff are not in denial about the defensive crisis we have at the club.
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« Reply #50 on: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 10:22:50 »

On the subject of set pieces, I recall Malpas asking the players for ideas.
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« Reply #51 on: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 10:22:56 »

Which is why I've said he's had half a season. These are things that are worked on outside of match day, in the training ground and the changing room.

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« Reply #52 on: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 10:26:38 »

1. I'm pleased with how it sounded yesterday. It seems like we've made a bit of progress and that's what I'm judging. I said after Leeds I wanted to see progress in the next 4 games. If it wasn't forthcoming I would then conclude he wasn't right for the job. If it was forthcoming I would conclude he could progress us on the field.

2. Irrelevant point. If we're crap at it then make it better. How hard is it to work on set pieces in training? Sounds pretty simple to me. Also, they clearly have worked on attacking set pieces because they do a silly corner routine this year that I have never seen before. It's comedy gold.

3. At no stage did we look like we wanted beat Colchester and about 70 minutes of the Leeds game was the same. If you don't want to win games you won't win them. We should have at least got a point out of the Leeds game. If we had the right attitude we would have.


I do not wish for Malpas to be sacked now, I'm simply pointing out the things that need putting right. If they cannot be put right then he needs to go. When will that time be? I guess it all depends how long I think it takes to work on these issues.

In fairness Si, at least he's trying! Sturrock said we were poor at set pieces and I don't remember him getting the stick that Malpas gets about it.

The reality is that people are not prepared to give him any time, nor are they prepared to give him the leeway they'd give to Sturrock (Remember the shit spell of games in league 2?)
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« Reply #53 on: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 10:30:27 »

This is where I differ with that opinion, because I don't compare Malpas to Wise, Sturrock, King or Onuora anymore. I had done in the past when everyone else was, but we've moved on as a club sufficiently for the past to be the past.

I don't care about Sturrock. He isn't here, he's not part of the Fitton 3 year plan and he isn't responsible for how we are playing right now.
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« Reply #54 on: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 10:30:42 »

Lets be honest though SI.....his hands have been tied in certain aspects and what he has to manage isnt great IMO,but then he knew that when taking the job....but shall we wait untill the end of season at least.
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« Reply #55 on: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 10:32:04 »

Where have his hands been tied?

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« Reply #56 on: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 10:33:26 »

No choice as to his back room squad
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« Reply #57 on: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 10:35:36 »

No choice as to his back room squad

Do you know this as a fact?
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« Reply #58 on: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 10:35:51 »

Apart from Cox....he hasnt been able to buy anyone he wants..FACT....you cant build a team on loan signings and lightweights who keep getting injured.
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« Reply #59 on: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 10:35:59 »

A very tight budget when it came to attracting players (Which is no bad thing imo, but does make it difficult to get players in)
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