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« Reply #30 on: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 09:39:40 » |
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We are only 7 matches in,you are always going to get Town fans who dont agree with each other.
I like MM,this is first job for gods sake,as for Aljofree you always get a player who takes the brunt of a few wankers.
I started a thread about Morrison starting..i for one applaud MM for dropping Ifill and starting him,Ifill will be back.
We have a good squad and once we get our home performances sorted we will start going upwards.
Ido think Brez is the best keeper and was dropped after 1 bad performance so wasnt Smith?...but thats just a minor point.
We as fans are part of the team,we are the extra player,Millwall next a win against them and we will be top ten...weve all got opinions and in my humble i think when the team is playing support em.....then if ware not happy we can express ourselfs on places like this.....and this is a great forum in IMO.
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Simon Pieman
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« Reply #31 on: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 09:40:15 » |
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It's not his first job.
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« Reply #32 on: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 09:44:54 » |
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Its his first job in England then...Managers like Moyes,Fergusson were given years to show they can manage...not 7 matches.
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« Reply #33 on: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 09:47:43 » |
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He's had half a season.
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« Reply #34 on: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 09:49:05 » |
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And thats enough Sie?
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« Reply #35 on: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 09:52:58 » |
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Its his first job in England then...Managers like Moyes,Fergusson were given years to show they can manage...not 7 matches.
This is utter rubbish. Moyes won Manager of the year in his first season at Everton. Ferguson finnished second with Man United in his first full season with the club. Both these managers showed great potential. They were then allowed mediocre seasons to consolodate. They werent allowed to be average. We are mid table, looking like being mid table for the forseeable future. |
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« Reply #36 on: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 09:53:07 » |
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He's had half a season.
How long do you think he should have Si? He's not had half a season. The tail end of last season, with players he didn't know and who didn't know him? People were happy to judge him (So they said) on how he does this season, after bringing players in and a full pre season. We're 7 (SEVEN) league games in. Is that enough time to judge a manager? In my opinion, is it fuck......... |
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« Reply #37 on: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 09:57:39 » |
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I think it's very subjective. He has had half a season to sort out certain things like defence and set pieces. This is stuff that can be worked on in training, but clearly haven't been improved.
Other than that, I'll judge results based on a longer time frame. The way we are playing can be judged on a shorter basis though I feel, and if we are playing in a consistent manner, even poorly in key areas, then that is definitely a matter for judgment.
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« Reply #38 on: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 09:58:18 » |
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This is utter rubbish. Moyes won Manager of the year in his first season at Everton.
Ferguson finnished second with Man United in his first full season with the club.
We are mid table, looking like being mid table for the forseeable future.
To compare ourselves with Man Utd and Everton is a bit silly Spence. Ferguson was a very experienced manager at Aberdeen and Moyes had done his apprenticeship at PNE. Malpas, in football manager terms, is a bit of a newbie. A short, unsuccessful spell in Scotland shouldn't preclude him being given a chance here (Although some decided it did) |
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« Reply #39 on: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 10:00:35 » |
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Fucks sake Leefer started it! I know it was a useless comparison. That was the point. Just wanted to set a few facts straight.  Actually Fitton was the one who talked about Ferguson when he appointed Malpas. So he started it.  |
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« Reply #40 on: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 10:01:15 » |
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This whole debate is irrelevant anyway! Unless we are entrenched in the relegation zone after Christmas then Malpas isn't going anywhere.
I think people need to realise that established management teams like the one we had under Sturrock cost a lot of money, more than we can afford, which is why he had to go the last 3 months of his time here unpaid.
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« Reply #41 on: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 10:04:30 » |
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And you did Spence...very well,Si knows last seasons end dosnt really count for MM...on and off the pitch the club was in turmoil....MM has had 7 matches in reality....
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« Reply #42 on: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 10:05:17 » |
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out of interest, is anyone else bothered that andy king was our last manager to have a full season in charge? admittedly this is partly because wise/poyet and sturrock scarpered but i don't want to go back to another season in new manager limbo
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« Reply #43 on: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 10:06:51 » |
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Ok, I'm judging after 7 matches. We're shit at the back, shit at set pieces (attacking and defending) and we've lost our winning mentality at home.
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« Reply #44 on: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 10:10:08 » |
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Ok, I'm judging after 7 matches. We're shit at the back, shit at set pieces (attacking and defending) and we've lost our winning mentality at home.
1. We weren't shit a.t the back yesterday. 2. When were we good at set pieces? 3. 2 home league games Si, one against a team that beat Carlisle at their place yesterday. |
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