The Malpas Debate.

[STFC Village]

Its down to concentration. If MM knows things are going wrong in the defence then he needs to use training to eliminate these mistakes...

A couple of sessions a week on "Brain Train" should do the trick

[Batch]

Is fucking great. Ok it gets a bit heated but when was the last time fans were split on something happening on the pitch. After a few southern comforts it has hit me how good it is to actually be debating football and not bankruptcy and cva's

Yeah it's great fans arguing with each other.

[Don Rogers Shop]

Arguin? Aint seen that on here batch. All i have seen is people wanting people to provide reasons for why they waant malpas out. Must admit though the people who want the reasons dont seem to have many reasons why he should stay though.

[herthab]

I still believe that, given time, Malpas could be a success here for the following reasons:

Style of play is attractive and despite some poor results we've only really played badly once this season.

His signings seem to be ok. Nalis is probably the best signing we made in the summer and unlike Cox and Mcnamee he can't be attributed to anyone else.

We need stability, if we change managers now does anybody really think we'll shoot up the league?

A three year plan is just that. Aiming for promotion is great, but most clubs in this league are aiming for that. We need to be realistic in our expectations. If we finish in the top half this season it's progression.

I don't really understand why some think he's so bad.......

[Nick Bamosomi]

I still believe that, given time, Malpas could be a success here for the following reasons:

Style of play is attractive and despite some poor results we've only really played badly once this season.

His signings seem to be ok. Nalis is probably the best signing we made in the summer and unlike Cox and Mcnamee he can't be attributed to anyone else.

We need stability, if we change managers now does anybody really think we'll shoot up the league?

A three year plan is just that. Aiming for promotion is great, but most clubs in this league are aiming for that. We need to be realistic in our expectations. If we finish in the top half this season it's progression.

I don't really understand why some think he's so bad.......

  good post

[Don Rogers Shop]

The style of play is better i cant argue with that. As you know steve through the 90 mins i will support them. The time issue is a strange one as personally i think it will we wasted with this mangagment team in charge. One question can anyone see malpas,byrne etc ever managing above league 1 level

[herthab]

The style of play is better i cant argue with that. As you know steve through the 90 mins i will support them. The time issue is a strange one as personally i think it will we wasted with this mangagment team in charge. One question can anyone see malpas,byrne etc ever managing above league 1 level

Dunno about Malpas, but I don't think Byrne should be involved with first team now....

[ibelieveinmrreeves]

  good post

Seconded (or is it thirded?)

[suttonred]

I still believe that, given time, Malpas could be a success here for the following reasons:

Style of play is attractive and despite some poor results we've only really played badly once this season.

His signings seem to be ok. Nalis is probably the best signing we made in the summer and unlike Cox and Mcnamee he can't be attributed to anyone else.

We need stability, if we change managers now does anybody really think we'll shoot up the league?

A three year plan is just that. Aiming for promotion is great, but most clubs in this league are aiming for that. We need to be realistic in our expectations. If we finish in the top half this season it's progression.

I don't really understand why some think he's so bad.......

Exactly, people seem to forget that we are a few months in to that plan, and to be honest that's probably unrealistic, it took Reading 7-8 years to get a solid foundation and move up. But in todays "want now" culture, people start whining because we aren't top, pretty pathetic really. A lot of the supporters now didn't have to sit through the early 80's dross to benchmark against, that was bad. A big dose of realism is required from all, and that doesn't appear likely. If i was AF i would be seriously questioning why i bought in, as i suspect is all it might take is a few of our more vitriolic "fans" to start on him if MM stays and we are still struggling, and he will be be having second thoughts pretty rapidly.

[Reg Smeeton]

The style of play is better i cant argue with that. As you know steve through the 90 mins i will support them. The time issue is a strange one as personally i think it will we wasted with this mangagment team in charge. One question can anyone see malpas,byrne etc ever managing above league 1 level

 Yes, why not, all you need to do is look at the career of Tony Pulis.

  Usually ends up getting revilled at the clubs he manages, with the exception of Gillingham...because of his anti-fotball style of play. The Gills fans put up with it, because they'd never known anything better.
 
 Hertab's reasoning is faultless....

[ronnie21]

Every time Christian Roberts got near a pitch it tended to create similar splits

Yeah, but some people are just looking for it!  Look at the stick Pook gets, at the start of the season it was Paynter - but he proved his worth to the team and those supporters who slated him had to let go, but then they started to pick on Aljofree!!  As many other threads have stated we do have some strange supporters - but they pays their money and are entitled to their opinion - or are they?

[Don Rogers Shop]

No that is silly ronnie

[ronnie21]

No that is silly ronnie

What, they are not entitled to an opinion?

[Simon Pieman]

I've supported Malpas as much as I've slagged him off. I haven't said he has to go (yet).

The problem is, us fans expect promotion. I don't care if we play anti football to get there, I want promotion as per Fitton's 3 year plan. This season it doesn't have to happen, but I need to see something that I feel will get us there next time round.

Up front we've got it cracked, but I do wonder if this is simply down to the skills of individuals rather than a style of play. I think it's only fair I credit Malpas with our attacking success though.

 I want to see Malpas sort out the following as priorities:

1) Defence - organisation/marking.
2) Set pieces - fuck knows how they train for them at the moment (attack and defence), but it aint working!
3) Team spirit and confidence.

Do those three things and I'll be singing his praises because I think that's all we need to do to get promoted.

[Spencer_White]

Exactly, people seem to forget that we are a few months in to that plan, and to be honest that's probably unrealistic, it took Reading 7-8 years to get a solid foundation and move up. But in todays "want now" culture, people start whining because we aren't top, pretty pathetic really. A lot of the supporters now didn't have to sit through the early 80's dross to benchmark against, that was bad. A big dose of realism is required from all, and that doesn't appear likely. If i was AF i would be seriously questioning why i bought in, as i suspect is all it might take is a few of our more vitriolic "fans" to start on him if MM stays and we are still struggling, and he will be be having second thoughts pretty rapidly.

In my view thats a totally wrong assessment of how Reading have got the success they have.

Pardew was highly rated, but he really isnt up to the hype. He spent loads of money to get them out of League 2, millions. In transfers and wages.

Then, purely by luck, Pardew went to West Ham, and Reading got Coppell. A class act, who has managed to players like Shorey to England caps. Under him Madjeski has re couped a lot of his investment. Coppell is very very clever, he has sold players at a massive profit. Turned Pardews team into top flight players who romped to the Championship title. They absolutely thrashed it.

The season before Reading went up from this league under Pardew they needed 18,000 every home game to break even. They were getting about 13,000. If Fitton is ready to back his mistakes with millions, then fine.

My dose of realism is that this will be another very dull season, and I wont be going to many away games next year if things are not sorted out. We are a shambles at the back, the players are starting to turn on each other and the fans are loosing interest because we show no signs of the determination that will bring us a decent campaign. You cant compare it to when the club was absolutely skint, you cant expect the fans to have the same expectations. Its never going to happen. We have to start looking like challengers for the play off places. Weve conceeded 3 goals at home in our last 3 games for fucks sake.