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« Reply #180 on: Monday, September 15, 2008, 11:59:01 »

i noted gggggg granville,byrne and williams all telling something to awankwaa all at the same time saturday.are they all saying the same thing or fucking confusing players?
i've said for ages that eventually malpas will get the boot.purely because alot of fans have not taken to him at all.only results will turn that around and he aint really getting them.

That's exactly what i mean with the coaches, things just are not right.

And i agree with what you say about malpas, he isn't going to last much longer at this rate.

Ok we won at Franchise with a last minute penalty, we won at aldershot on penalties, we should have beat them in normal time in all fairness, as for hereford we should be winning games against teams like that, hereford are a very poor team yet we can only manage a draw, we have only played well against tranmere in the league this season, the other performances have been terrible to be honest.
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« Reply #181 on: Monday, September 15, 2008, 11:59:37 »

malpas was an international defender,williams was a second tier centre half.so if they cannot see that aljofree and ifil are not playing well together,or they cannot bring someone in on loan,or they cannot get them to improve, then they will all be out of a job by october.there are other minor problems wth the team but the centre backs are the main worry by a country mile
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« Reply #182 on: Monday, September 15, 2008, 12:01:44 »

Aljofree, ifil & even kanyuka have been terrible this season and just cannot defend, it is comedy defending, mcgovern and the goalkeepers are the other problems in this team imo.

Arriba you said exactly what i said malpas was a defender and so too was williams so why cannot organise the defence? even if they brought in someone on loan i doubt it would make a lot of difference because the organisation is just not there.
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« Reply #183 on: Monday, September 15, 2008, 12:03:18 »

Sorry i did contradict myself but byrne just rambles on and i think deflates players sometimes, i have heard many people moaning about his shouting.
Does it matter if people "moan about his shouting"? It doesn't matter shit if you, I or 5000 others do or do not like his shouting. What matters is whether its effective in getting the players to carry out the instructions they have been given. On Saturday that clearly wasn't the case (as I assume he wasn't shouting "Drop the ball in the net, Smithy"), but they seemed to respond pretty well when he was caretaker. It looks like you're lashing out in all directions, looking for someone to blame, but of all the various things going wrong atm and possible causes of them, I suspect the assistant manager being a bit shouty during games is probably pretty low down the list
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« Reply #184 on: Monday, September 15, 2008, 12:05:42 »

Does it matter if people "moan about his shouting"? It doesn't matter shit if you, I or 5000 others do or do not like his shouting. What matters is whether its effective in getting the players to carry out the instructions they have been given. On Saturday that clearly wasn't the case (as I assume he wasn't shouting "Drop the ball in the net, Smithy"), but they seemed to respond pretty well when he was caretaker. It looks like you're lashing out in all directions, looking for someone to blame, but of all the various things going wrong atm and possible causes of them, I suspect the assistant manager being a bit shouty during games is probably pretty low down the list

As i said i think byrne's instructions do not have the desired effect that is just my opinion.
Why doesn't malpas get off his backside and try and inspire the team for a change instead of just sitting down and leaving it to byrne, he's the manager, he has to take the responsiblity!
I feel that byrne, williams and granville must be doing something wrong, why the constant mistakes? why can't they sort the defence out?
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« Reply #185 on: Monday, September 15, 2008, 12:06:27 »

I think i'll try and warn you oaf (tee hee) you do seem to be making the same points in most of your posts. Valid though some of them are, you are going down the bart route. And then sonic will shout at you.

Agree on the defensive organisation though. The back four always look as if they've never met each other untill 5 minutes before kick off
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« Reply #186 on: Monday, September 15, 2008, 12:06:53 »

surely there is an experienced centre back at a championship club unable to get a start but good enough to come here?
maplas cannot just leave it as it is.
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« Reply #187 on: Monday, September 15, 2008, 12:14:14 »

Fucking hell, honestly I thought we were worse against Colchester then we were against Leeds!

This is just getting stupid now.

Malpas cant motivate a team because hes boring, what the fuck? that makes no sense what so ever. Wenger, Ferguson, Benitez are dull as dish water in front of the camera. Now im not saying Malpas is a good manager but being boring doesnt make him a bad one.

Next of all Malpas is a rubbish manager because he doesnt stand up and shout, then Byrne is a rubbish assistant because he does stand up and shout?!?! McCallister stands up and shouts and he's firing the team up? What? complete contridiction. I could understand your point if you sat by the dugouts and could hear what gets said, but that hasnt been mentioned?

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« Reply #188 on: Monday, September 15, 2008, 12:22:03 »

Our centre backs were good enough last year.

The team isn't working as a unit and the defense is the biggest problem area in terms of organisation. Has a lack of motivation forced a fair number of individual errors in the early course of this season? I really doubt it.

The team needs more concentration, discipline and organisation. That's what's gone wrong. It's starting to remind me of the Andy King days in that respect.
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« Reply #189 on: Monday, September 15, 2008, 12:23:56 »

Could it also have something to do with the fact the defence arent being protected by the midfield as much as they were last season?
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« Reply #190 on: Monday, September 15, 2008, 12:24:30 »

Fucking hell, honestly I thought we were worse against Colchester then we were against Leeds!

This is just getting stupid now.

Malpas cant motivate a team because hes boring, what the fuck? that makes no sense what so ever. Wenger, Ferguson, Benitez are dull as dish water in front of the camera. Now im not saying Malpas is a good manager but being boring doesnt make him a bad one.

Next of all Malpas is a rubbish manager because he doesnt stand up and shout, then Byrne is a rubbish assistant because he does stand up and shout?!?! McCallister stands up and shouts and he's firing the team up? What? complete contridiction. I could understand your point if you sat by the dugouts and could hear what gets said, but that hasnt been mentioned?



We were worse against Colchester, but Leeds had 10 men. No matter how good Leeds are (and they were good, their defending was awesome and that Delph fella made McNamee look like Ricky Shakes) to let a team that has 10 men have that much space all over the pitch was criminal! Not only that, but we still insisted on having everyone back for corners! It was unbelievable, defensively I just don't think some players know what they are doing and as I said earlier in the thread, when you consider that our Manager and his assistant are both defenders, it is really mind boggling.

I think we are OK going forward, Leeds defended well and restricted us a lot. Lucas made an excellent save from Cox that would have made it 2-2 and then who knows? I also think Beckford should have been off, he got away with a lot and if he'd have gone they've lost their main man.

I think we will turn teams over this season, I really do. We have quality going forward and I'm really enjoying Cox and Paynter as a partnership. Some teams will come here and sit back and we'll pass it round them, a bit like Tranmere. Malpas and Byrne are encouraging good football, but it's sacrificing the most basic of defensive tactics. We need new coaches in, I can't see them changing it.

If we can sort out the defence we will be top 6, no problem.
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« Reply #191 on: Monday, September 15, 2008, 12:25:55 »

Fwiw these are the reasons i dont think he is the right man and feel free to shoot me down.

1)Appears to have made the defensive unit worse, coaching or not it is his responsibility.
2)Continues to swap everything around all the time.
3)No confidence in players one mistake and they are dropped instead of supporting them through bad times they get dropped.
4)Lack of ideas when mcnamee is marked out the game.
5)the whole managment seems to have no experience in managment and byrne has openly stated he would like to manage the club,can that be healthy when in affect he is basically waiting for malpas to go.
6)Seems to be too clique with certain players ie Aljofree,vincent
7)saturday no sub when we had one left against 10 men


Now i know some people dont agree and no matter what you think im not a malpas hater these are just genuine concerns.The board are going to have a very tricky situastion on their hands soon.As i have said i believe that a fair few people will not bother with the 2nd installments and more worryingly at the end of the year 442 and ourselves can get out of the sponsorship deal so financially if Malpas does not do well it could be very bad indeed.
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« Reply #192 on: Monday, September 15, 2008, 12:30:09 »

DRS I actually completley agree with you on pretty much all your points

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« Reply #193 on: Monday, September 15, 2008, 12:30:15 »

Even a crap goalkeeping coach wouldnt turn a decent keeper into a bad one.I really believe that Brez's injury(which was an horrendous one,let's not forget)has robbed him of confidence.
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« Reply #194 on: Monday, September 15, 2008, 12:31:04 »

I have the same concerns, although I do think we have other options than Macca.. long ball to Paynter, or straight into Cox's feet. Nalis was drawing markers away from McNamee as well on Saturday.
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