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« Reply #165 on: Monday, September 15, 2008, 10:11:12 »

Is it time that Mr Fitton breaks the wage structure with allowing MM to bring in a couple of better players on loan? he seems very strict that he wont so the idea of us actually being able to get players in that are better is an impossible dream.

No.

The one thing I am sure is that we must never again risk the future of STFC by spending money we don't have. Even if it means relegation.

I am aware things take time, budgets are in place and so on, and STFC is a long game. So I guess one more question is am I being too quick in expecting a turnaround by Christmas?

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« Reply #166 on: Monday, September 15, 2008, 10:53:33 »

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« Reply #167 on: Monday, September 15, 2008, 11:03:47 »

I will probably get slated but i am losing confidence in malpas, i was prepared to give him a chance but just cannot help feeling that he is not the right man for the job.

He just does not seem very good tactically, with leeds going down to 10 men we should have been looking to win the game and even pushing people up but you would have thought that we were the team with 10 men, leeds were quite comfortable.

Before malpas was appointed fitton did say that he would appoint a manager with a proven track record, malpas has not got a proven track record, he has only had one job and he did so badly there that there was a fans petition to get him sacked, doesn't say alot for the man does it?

The way things are going i think alot of fans won't bother paying the second installment on their season tickets because if we keep playing like this every week and carry on making the same mistakes week in week out then people are not going to want to go and that is going to hit the club hard, fitton is a businessman so if that happens and attendances start dropping alot then i think he will be forced into doing something about it.

I honestly think that if we lose at stockport and at home to millwall then he will be gone, i am going to stockport on saturday, i don't know why i am bothering after saturdays disaster but i don't feel like going at the moment because i fear it will be the same old thing again but let's see what happens.

I think malpas and the coaching staff are just not upto it, Byrne was a youth team coach, i personally feel that he should not be assistant manager, all he seems to do is shout abuse at players and make them low on confidence by constantly slating them, ady williams (what does he do?) he is no good at a coach either i don't think, also the goalkeeping coach granville cannot be doing his job properly, these two keepers who used to be great look terrible this season, why?

Malpas and the coaching staff just cannot organise this team and cannot sort out the defence and cut these constant errors out and it is getting beyond a joke now and alot of fans are getting fed up with it.

Also i would like to point out that the fans have never once sang malpas's name, the first time ever i think for a swindon manager's name not to be sung, it says something about malpas.

I think time is fast running out for malpas, things must improve quickly otherwise i feel he will be out of a job.
You won't get slated by me - good post. I was prepared to wait until X Mas before judging Malaps but Leeds was the last straw for me on top of other crap displays. The players appear to have zero confidentce and we are falling down on basics. I think he's going to have to do one hell of a job to still be here at X Mas.
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« Reply #168 on: Monday, September 15, 2008, 11:17:35 »

I will probably get slated but i am losing confidence in malpas, i was prepared to give him a chance but just cannot help feeling that he is not the right man for the job.

He just does not seem very good tactically, with leeds going down to 10 men we should have been looking to win the game and even pushing people up but you would have thought that we were the team with 10 men, leeds were quite comfortable.

Before malpas was appointed fitton did say that he would appoint a manager with a proven track record, malpas has not got a proven track record, he has only had one job and he did so badly there that there was a fans petition to get him sacked, doesn't say alot for the man does it?

The way things are going i think alot of fans won't bother paying the second installment on their season tickets because if we keep playing like this every week and carry on making the same mistakes week in week out then people are not going to want to go and that is going to hit the club hard, fitton is a businessman so if that happens and attendances start dropping alot then i think he will be forced into doing something about it.

I honestly think that if we lose at stockport and at home to millwall then he will be gone, i am going to stockport on saturday, i don't know why i am bothering after saturdays disaster but i don't feel like going at the moment because i fear it will be the same old thing again but let's see what happens.

I think malpas and the coaching staff are just not upto it, Byrne was a youth team coach, i personally feel that he should not be assistant manager, all he seems to do is shout abuse at players and make them low on confidence by constantly slating them, ady williams (what does he do?) he is no good at a coach either i don't think, also the goalkeeping coach granville cannot be doing his job properly, these two keepers who used to be great look terrible this season, why?

Malpas and the coaching staff just cannot organise this team and cannot sort out the defence and cut these constant errors out and it is getting beyond a joke now and alot of fans are getting fed up with it.

Also i would like to point out that the fans have never once sang malpas's name, the first time ever i think for a swindon manager's name not to be sung, it says something about malpas.

I think time is fast running out for malpas, things must improve quickly otherwise i feel he will be out of a job.

I agree we should have looked to capitalise more on leeds' predicament, but to say the fact leeds looked comfortable with 10 men was soley down to malpas is ignoring just how well organised leeds were and how good a team they actually are.

To be fair, unless you watch the team train then i would find it hard to slate the coaches. The only thing im worried about is the apparent lack of team spirit in comparison to the wise and sturrock era. We looked much more together then, and is probably for me the biggest let down so far this season, and has probably led to quite a few of these sloppy goals we've conceded.

The fans have sang malpas songs at all three away games.

That wasn't necessarily an anti-you post, for the most part i would agree with most of what you are saying. But if we could compare with play-off winners last season, most doncaster fans were screaming for o'driscolls head as late as october / november. For much the same reasons as we are now. Now obviously malpas doesn't have the track record o'driscoll has, but its something worth bearing in mind.
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« Reply #169 on: Monday, September 15, 2008, 11:26:51 »

I feel that granville is not a good enough goalkeeping coach, something has happened with our goalkeepers, why do they seem to be so lacking in confidence and making so many errors this season? it just seems like something is not right somewhere, are playings arguing with each other, is the dressing room split or has malpas lost the players support? i don't know but it seems there are big problems somewhere.

I constantly hear how the coaches are constantly out on the piss, Byrne & Williams the main culprits, mackey too but he's not a coach, obviously they are entitled to do what they want when they are not working but it just seems to happen too often.

Also i think Byrne demotivates players with his constant rambling, he really does shout some abuse and some players may feel deflated?

On saturday Mcallister was on the touchline shouting, pointing, firing his team up whereas Malpas just stayed on the bench and didn't do anything, he just doesn't seem to have the personality and doesn't seem to fire the team up, maybe it is just me who thinks that?

The way i see it is Malpas firstly cannot organise this team properly, his tactics are very questionable, he doesn't seem to react when teams change their style or formation, also he plays some players in wrong position i.e mcgovern in the centre etc, him and the coaching team are just not making it work, it's not happening for some reason, i wonder if the players have a problem with malpas and don't want to play for him? obviously that's just a possiblity but this team has been turned around from a fairly decent team to a team that cannot defend and makes constant errors and does not seem the same team.

Malpas turned motherwell from a decent team into a very poor one and almost got them relegated, is he doing the same thing here?

I just think unless things dramatically improve and soon then he has to go whether he resigns or gets sacked, this just cannot keep happening every week with just one good performance now and again.
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« Reply #170 on: Monday, September 15, 2008, 11:30:09 »

I wouldnt really moan at dick mackey for going out on the piss. All he has to do is rub people down with a sponge doesnt he? I wouldnt really moan at williams and byrne too much, unless they were doing it every night.

I'm not going to slate malpas for not jumping about like a loon either. Byrne does it, yet he gets moaned at? The one thing i am slightly concerened about is the apparent lack of team spirit, something wise acheived brilliantly, and sturrock kept going.
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« Reply #171 on: Monday, September 15, 2008, 11:35:54 »

I wouldnt really moan at dick mackey for going out on the piss. All he has to do is rub people down with a sponge doesnt he? I wouldnt really moan at williams and byrne too much, unless they were doing it every night.

I'm not going to slate malpas for not jumping about like a loon either. Byrne does it, yet he gets moaned at? The one thing i am slightly concerened about is the apparent lack of team spirit, something wise acheived brilliantly, and sturrock kept going.

I agree, there is no team spirit but malpas sometimes comes across as boring and as though he cannot generate a team spirit.

Would we be better if we got rid of the coaches and got new ones? i don't know, i think malpas is the problem though, being an ex defender himself he should be able to sort this defence out yet he cannot do it, the thing is though why can't he do it?

He reminds me of Andy King when he slags the players off but after all these mistakes they do need a good bollocking and a kick up the backside.

I am just wondering if it's going to be any different on saturday, i will be going and hope they will play alot better but at the moment i am not confident.
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« Reply #172 on: Monday, September 15, 2008, 11:44:11 »

I wont have a go at him for being boring either. Sturrock was hardly a wild party animal.

Going back to the granville point, it does seem a bit odd how both keepers form seems to have dipped. How much of brez's 'problems' are down to wise leaving though? and mental demons after his broken arm. And could smith be 'struggling' because league two is in fact his natural level?
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« Reply #173 on: Monday, September 15, 2008, 11:47:04 »

i noted gggggg granville,byrne and williams all telling something to awankwaa all at the same time saturday.are they all saying the same thing or fucking confusing players?
i've said for ages that eventually malpas will get the boot.purely because alot of fans have not taken to him at all.only results will turn that around and he aint really getting them.
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« Reply #174 on: Monday, September 15, 2008, 11:50:25 »

Also i think Byrne demotivates players with his constant rambling, he really does shout some abuse and some players may feel deflated?

On saturday Mcallister was on the touchline shouting, pointing, firing his team up whereas Malpas just stayed on the bench and didn't do anything, he just doesn't seem to have the personality and doesn't seem to fire the team up, maybe it is just me who thinks that?
Aren't you contradicting yourself here? When McAllister's on the touchline shouting and pointing he's "firing his team up", but when Byrne does it he's "rambling"? Can't have it both ways.
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« Reply #175 on: Monday, September 15, 2008, 11:51:54 »

The keepers seem really bad, it could be down to what you say or it could be the coaching, smith used to be a very good goalkeeper but he has made alot of mistakes recently including at hereford and on saturday, maybe league two is his level but it seems very odd.

Ifil looks terrible as well this season, i know he has got 2 goals but his distribution has got worse and he looks nervous on the ball and made that terrible mistake.

Mcgovern is another player that i believe has played awful, why does he continue to get picked? only the strikers, mcnamee and jack smith are playing ok, the rest of the team are letting them down.

I think someone else should be made captain, aljofree is another one who has been poor and made a bad mistake for leeds 3rd goal on saturday, he shouts at the other defenders even when he makes a mistake, i think someone else should be captain, that's my opinion anyway.

The team is not playing together as a unit and seem clueless and unmotivated, if malpas cannot motivate them for a game against leeds then what hope do we have?

The last two home games against leeds have been disappointing with very big crowds.
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« Reply #176 on: Monday, September 15, 2008, 11:53:02 »

Aren't you contradicting yourself here? When McAllister's on the touchline shouting and pointing he's "firing his team up", but when Byrne does it he's "rambling"? Can't have it both ways.


Sorry i did contradict myself but byrne just rambles on and i think deflates players sometimes, i have heard many people moaning about his shouting.

As byrne is a youth team coach i still think he should have stayed as youth team coach and let malpas have his own assistant, maybe things would be better if malpas brought in his own coaching team?
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« Reply #177 on: Monday, September 15, 2008, 11:53:32 »

Our last two big crowds saw us draw 1-1 (with ten men) and win 2-1. Both against teams that got promoted
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« Reply #178 on: Monday, September 15, 2008, 11:55:30 »

Our last two big crowds saw us draw 1-1 (with ten men) and win 2-1. Both against teams that got promoted

Sorry i meant to have said both leeds games.
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« Reply #179 on: Monday, September 15, 2008, 11:57:12 »

we played well last time we had leeds at home iirc. we just played them at a time we couldnt score for shit
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