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« Reply #150 on: Sunday, September 14, 2008, 20:21:34 »

i think we should forget the league and concentrate on the JPT

i'm with you on that, we should rest our best 11 and bring them out just for the JPT...this is going to be our year Cheesy
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« Reply #151 on: Sunday, September 14, 2008, 20:22:40 »

Haha "Que sera sera...................
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« Reply #152 on: Sunday, September 14, 2008, 20:54:49 »

Leeds in the final?
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« Reply #153 on: Sunday, September 14, 2008, 22:24:47 »

I do wonder how forgiving people would be if the previous regime had appointed malpas

How very true!!!
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« Reply #154 on: Sunday, September 14, 2008, 22:27:11 »

it wasn't a statement, was a question.so yes its true he did ask.
i think they would have hung the cunt already(not literally)
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« Reply #155 on: Sunday, September 14, 2008, 22:28:44 »

anyone hear the interview with Malpas after Hereford?
he was asked what he will be doing the weekend as Swindon had the game on friday night, his reply was:
'I suppose i should go to watch Leeds but im going to be selfish and see my family then play golf'


Doesnt need to watch Leeds, just all the videos of all the games so far......and tell the defenders.....DONT DO THIS...DONT DO THAT....PLAY IT HERE.......TRY DOING THIS......etc etc etc....
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« Reply #156 on: Sunday, September 14, 2008, 23:08:44 »

I do wonder how forgiving people would be if the previous regime had appointed malpas

How very true!!!


I'd hope he was treated very differently to be honetst. I don't see why it's seen as a bad thing to think otherwise.

Take away the rubbish adver player "lets make a story" talk. The new owners of the club have been pretty honest about their desire too build up a team slowly. Three years to get promoted, emphasis on youth, not willing to spend above our means to have a quick year in the championship.

Malpas may or may not be part of that ideal, it's pretty obvious that he was bought in for his youth experience. Which makes perfect sense when you look at the new board's goals. It's a difficult transition period though. It's quite clear that the likes of Morrison, Chris Allan, etc. aren't quite ready for first team football.

Rightly or wrongly Fitton and co have set themselves up with a club with which they can see attaining  possible self sustained championship football without opening the bottomless black hole of football money. I'm actually pretty dubious on whether it's a possible goal, but fair  play to them for trying.

And that pretty much sums it up. Fair play on them for trying. We wouldn't be fans if we didn't want our club to do better ever year. (And) I also hate the sort of magic-let's-not-offend-the-new-owners vibe which seems to have gone down on here recently. The new board aren't above criticism, but it's the first time in decades that we've got the opportunity to shout at a board which might actually listen. Which makes it more important that it's constructive.

I think we're all very much used to a "Them vs. Us" scenario when it comes to our football club. As long as the current owners can subsitant their goal of building the team up as a whole, then I'm willing to give them a fair bit of leeway.

 I include Malpas in this leeway. Some seem to have judged that he's never going to help us reach our 3 year target. I don't think he's had enough time yet (or even if it's possible). I hope I understand the frustration of watching a team which is "nearly" good. And equally "nearly" bad I suppose. It's that consistent "nearly". But that doesn't matter at the moment. If MM can keep on the path of the new owners - building up the club slowly; then I'll happily not watch mediocre League one football all year, and next year.

Sorry I've started babbling. I'm pretty sure it gets slightly more rambling towards the end. and feel free to dismiss me because I don't go to games if you want.
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« Reply #157 on: Monday, September 15, 2008, 00:17:17 »

If Diamandis had appointed Malpas after Wise it would have been fucking savage.

I know we should be patient. We could play the long term thing, but Im not travelling to 300 miles to see a team half full of youths get well beat when were assured a mid table finnish. Theres no passion in it, its too methodical. End of last season was fucking crap to be honest. Least going down we had competitive games and it all meant something.

Having goals of 2 or 3 seasons time is realistic, fine. But it doesnt exactly fire you up to go to Stockport next week. And when you get out of that habit of following everywhere it just seems more like a chore. You find other stuff to do. The less fans that travel the worse it gets. Atmosphere is suffering already.

I went to Leyton Orient last season and I didnt even want to be there. I only did it for the new ground thing, it was a big mistake. I couldnt even feign an interest and left after watching 10 minutes of the game. Exactly the same for a few home games, 15 minutes, then back to the pub, drinkings more fun. The habit was hanging by a thread.

Football is all about the next game, getting on a roll. I dont care what anyone says. I cant be bothered to watch half arsed teams on the promise that things will be good in 3 years time. Do it behind the scenes, because we hardly get a chance to get excited about the players we produce anyway. I want success now, goals the next game, this season, and if were not trying our best to get it then I cant be bothered. See you when youre ready.
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« Reply #158 on: Monday, September 15, 2008, 08:00:20 »

No it isn't Gaz. It's the fact we are coached by 3 defenders yet can't defend for shit. I like the way we play football going forward, its nice to watch and we have good players. At the back we are abysmal and it needs to be sorted.
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« Reply #159 on: Monday, September 15, 2008, 08:37:49 »

Spence has a point.
Most intelligent fans will be delighted that we are stable off the pitch and a three year plan is great and shows more stability in the future.
However we do need to see the team put in good shows and im not talking about winning every game but 'trying'.
If it seems the players cant be bothered.....then why should the fans, after all, they are not being paid to be at the County Ground or Colchester on a wet Tuesday night........
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« Reply #160 on: Monday, September 15, 2008, 08:47:17 »

Spencer White has just summed up my feelings at the moment, good post
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« Reply #161 on: Monday, September 15, 2008, 09:19:07 »

Nice post Spence.

I'm going to go a bit Bart on us here, for me the jury is still out on whether the management team can hack it. Though I am hoping they can, and I am certainly not going to jump on anybodies back. This isn't based off the Leeds result either , but on the season thus far.

I want to see improvement, but I also want to see us win.

The squad looks a little stronger than last year in terms of depth, overly so with the like of Pook and Sturrock picking up wages for doing nothing (not their fault). On the pitch we seem to be trying to play a more attractive style of football, which everyone seemed to want. But we also have regressed in the obvious areas. Mainly defending (as a team).

At the moment we seem to be as inconsistent as last year = no progress made.

So are we just seeing bad luck and individual errors creep in, something that will right itself over time? Or are we just not good enough? Or is the lack of motivation and understanding down to the coaching?

Truth is, I don't know. I guess we'll have a clearer view by Christmas.

Truth is, I don't know.
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« Reply #162 on: Monday, September 15, 2008, 09:26:07 »

I'm at that stage too Batch, and that's the dilemma for me, I just don't know what the answer is, what the problem is, who the problem is.  Without over reacting time is the only thing that will give us these answers, problem is how much time to we sacrifice to the wait and see point of view.

This isn't an anti or pro MM post really, as you said I just don't know.
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« Reply #163 on: Monday, September 15, 2008, 09:36:56 »

I fully agree with Batch on this.

I want us to win games, I want us to play good football, I want the best for our club.

I HOPE MM is the man for the job, I want MM to become the best manager in the history of the club, it is far too early to judge him but come Christmas we will know much better how the season is panning out.

One home defeat to what is probably the best team in the league is not a disgrace, defensive errors and calamities happen in football all the time, its just so rarely that it happens 3 times in a game.

MM does make some unusual tactical decisions in games, but if these come off then he is hailed the new mesiah, if they dont come off then this whole argument comes up again questioning his managment style.

Personally I think that it will take a long string of poor performances, not just one or two off games, and not just string of individual errors, which you can only prevent by replacing the players that have them...which at the moment we cannot as we dont have the strength in depth that we obviously need.

Is it time that Mr Fitton breaks the wage structure with allowing MM to bring in a couple of better players on loan? he seems very strict that he wont so the idea of us actually being able to get players in that are better is an impossible dream.

MM's hands are tied by the squad he has at the moment, he cant and anyway seems unable to add to the squad without offloading first.

So it must all come down to coaching, morale and the ability of the players to act upon tactics to improve performances.

If any one of these points is not acted upon then it will be a very long season with a fight against relegation, if they come together then we can still easily get to the play offs.

It is finely in the balance, lets hope it falls more towards the positive side for us.
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« Reply #164 on: Monday, September 15, 2008, 10:02:32 »

I will probably get slated but i am losing confidence in malpas, i was prepared to give him a chance but just cannot help feeling that he is not the right man for the job.

He just does not seem very good tactically, with leeds going down to 10 men we should have been looking to win the game and even pushing people up but you would have thought that we were the team with 10 men, leeds were quite comfortable.

Before malpas was appointed fitton did say that he would appoint a manager with a proven track record, malpas has not got a proven track record, he has only had one job and he did so badly there that there was a fans petition to get him sacked, doesn't say alot for the man does it?

The way things are going i think alot of fans won't bother paying the second installment on their season tickets because if we keep playing like this every week and carry on making the same mistakes week in week out then people are not going to want to go and that is going to hit the club hard, fitton is a businessman so if that happens and attendances start dropping alot then i think he will be forced into doing something about it.

I honestly think that if we lose at stockport and at home to millwall then he will be gone, i am going to stockport on saturday, i don't know why i am bothering after saturdays disaster but i don't feel like going at the moment because i fear it will be the same old thing again but let's see what happens.

I think malpas and the coaching staff are just not upto it, Byrne was a youth team coach, i personally feel that he should not be assistant manager, all he seems to do is shout abuse at players and make them low on confidence by constantly slating them, ady williams (what does he do?) he is no good at a coach either i don't think, also the goalkeeping coach granville cannot be doing his job properly, these two keepers who used to be great look terrible this season, why?

Malpas and the coaching staff just cannot organise this team and cannot sort out the defence and cut these constant errors out and it is getting beyond a joke now and alot of fans are getting fed up with it.

Also i would like to point out that the fans have never once sang malpas's name, the first time ever i think for a swindon manager's name not to be sung, it says something about malpas.

I think time is fast running out for malpas, things must improve quickly otherwise i feel he will be out of a job.
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