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« Reply #45 on: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 08:57:30 »

Even if Rooney isn't scoring, the issue is there is nobody in the squad more capable. Defoe isn't good enough, Heskey the same and is past it. That leaves, um, er.

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« Reply #46 on: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 09:10:13 »

Rooney is the latest scape goat for an England team that does not have one good performer, blame every single one of them, not one of them matches there club form.
I think its because they've got better players around them when they play with their clubs
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« Reply #47 on: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 09:47:28 »

Going on form, I think Rooney shouldln't play up front because he's just not scoring goals. If he played further back in a more of an attacking midfield role I think he'd be a lot more effective.

My money's on Crouch and J Cole starting against the Croats and us playing 4-5-1.

Crouch not in the squad, if they want to go with the big guy it has to be Heskey.
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« Reply #48 on: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 09:50:10 »

I know what your saying lady but He dropped owen,cole,beckham more than any other manager has done and with the injurys he had no choice saturday. As for rooney being a scapegoat thats bollox the stats show 2 goals in 4 years and they both came in the space of 4 days. Thats not good enough.

Cant say I am shocked by a fan of Liverpool jumping on a United player but the real fact is the whole squad has not done it for a long, long time.  We could name stats about every player in that squad and about the way they have played for there country.
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« Reply #49 on: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 10:24:22 »

The most consistent England performer when fit is Hargreaves. He holds his position, brakes up play, gives the ball and gets back into position. The big problem we have is our midfield and forwards not playing to their position - the biggest culprit is Rooney who chases after the ball like a 5 year old in the playground. This leaves us one less outlet when we get the ball. The other obviuos problem is the midfield where players drift in and out of position regularly - particularly Beckham who does a JPM in keeping drifting into the already corwded centre. 
The best 11 players do not make the best team. If these overpaid, useless tools can't do the job ( and they've consistenyl failed to do so ) then its time to pension off the "golden generation" and get in players who are at the very least positionally capable.
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« Reply #50 on: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 11:05:09 »

Liverpool fan? Yes the whole squad shud take the blame if u took time to read my initial post u would see i said drop him for a kick up the ass.
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« Reply #51 on: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 12:28:27 »

Isn't it about time that we looked at players from the championshit if prem players don't want to play as they care more abou the money their club pays them than they do playing for their country then picking players lower down at least they wopuld go out there and actually try and give it a real go as they would see it as an honour to play for their country.

Ok we may get close to winning someone buty at least we will see players giving their all for the shirt which is more than we get now.
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« Reply #52 on: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 15:57:42 »

I wuz there ( as indeed in Zageb ) - Joe Cole apart it was shite - but me and axs got merrily pissed sunday !

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« Reply #53 on: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 16:01:27 »

I ran into our new friends at the airport again on Monday, can't remember their names but the american and the south african, they were headed to Zurich i think.
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« Reply #54 on: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 18:01:26 »

Remember how well Rooney played v Turkey at the Stadium of Light in, what, 2004? Absolutely awesome. Please do it again Wayne.
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« Reply #55 on: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 18:08:33 »

Agree michael
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« Reply #56 on: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 18:11:04 »

Remember how well Rooney played v Turkey at the Stadium of Light in, what, 2004? Absolutely awesome. Please do it again Wayne.

That was Rooney's best year in an England shirt - four years on and he hasn't come close to matching it since, which is a shame.

What concerns me is that the headlines tend to be "who should Cappelo play alongside Rooney" when it should be or should have been "shouldn't we at least drop Rooney for a a game due to the fact he's a bit guff for England at the moment"

Luckily, as Reg has mentioned, many realise that we're the underdog for this and it's quite likely we'll struggle to get a point.
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