i get the best jobs

[Colin Todd]

, or have been in the business for 10/15/20 years. they are not likely to up sticks and go searching for a new job are they?

why not?  its a job not a prison sentance.  Who knows they might enjoy it more, get paid more or perhaps both.

[Leggett]

if we're gonna start disecting quotes and ignoring the rest of the points, i'll join in too

its a job

you're not wrong. have a pat on the head and a buscuit

[Lumps]

For some reason the public have always liked slagging of the RM. For me, I'll be prepared to be critical when some private company is able to deliver my letter to anywhere I choose in the country, 90% of the time within 24/36 hours, for less than 30p. Until then all the TNT's and what have you that bang on about public sector inefficiency can just shut the fuck up. I use courier companies regularly for business mail and I can tell you they are no more fucking reliable or user friendly than the post.

Everyone that thinks that competition and the market is the answer to every problem just needs to look at whats happening to the mail to see that it isn't the case.

Actually fuck that you can look at the rail, the buses, the utilities and the health service as well.

When services are natural monopolies because the sheer scale of infrastructure required to compete across the business is an effective barrier to market entry, pissing about with introducing elements of market forces in an artificial way (either by carving out profitable sectors of the business to be exposed to competition or offering massive subsidies or guaranteed income to private companies as incentives to invest in the sector) really does just fuck things up.

[Lumps]

Oh and if I was a postie, with 20 years on the job and therefore probably little in the way of really saleable skills that are easily transferable outside the sector, and was therefore only looking at unskilled jobs as alternatives, I'd be staying on and bitching on t'internet as well. You ain't gonna get those pension rights working in fucking B&Q.

[Colin Todd]

if we're gonna start disecting quotes and ignoring the rest of the points, i'll join in too



you're not wrong. have a pat on the head and a buscuit

Come on now you're never going to make management level (cough NAZI SCUM spit!) with that sort of attitude are you? 

[Colin Todd]

Oh and if I was a postie, with 20 years on the job and therefore probably little in the way of really saleable skills that are easily transferable outside the sector, and was therefore only looking at unskilled jobs as alternatives, I'd be staying on and bitching on t'internet as well. You ain't gonna get those pension rights working in fucking B&Q.

Depends what job they did lumps, some would be more suited to other work than others.

Obviously the majority are pretty much unemployable elsewhere  , which coupled with the uber pension means thats why they dont leave. ever. they just irrate the general public by moaning, striking and resisting any change from 1950's working practices.

[Leggett]

For some reason the public have always liked slagging of the RM. For me, I'll be prepared to be critical when some private company is able to deliver my letter to anywhere I choose in the country, 90% of the time within 24/36 hours, for less than 30p. Until then all the TNT's and what have you that bang on about public sector inefficiency can just shut the fuck up. I use courier companies regularly for business mail and I can tell you they are no more fucking reliable or user friendly than the post.

Everyone that thinks that competition and the market is the answer to every problem just needs to look at whats happening to the mail to see that it isn't the case.

Actually fuck that you can look at the rail, the buses, the utilities and the health service as well.

When services are natural monopolies because the sheer scale of infrastructure required to compete across the business is an effective barrier to market entry, pissing about with introducing elements of market forces in an artificial way (either by carving out profitable sectors of the business to be exposed to competition or offering massive subsidies or guaranteed income to private companies as incentives to invest in the sector) really does just fuck things up.

now thats a sensible post. good work, A+.




lumps, just out of curiosity, why do you use couriers for business post?


uber pensions? try 30% less of an 'uber' pension now they've implemented the changes. damn the man colin. Damn the man, save the empire!

[Arriba]

when the royal mail is no more and the cost of sending items rockets,those that slate the service they currently get will be moaning even more.

[Gazza's Fat Mate]

What really fucks me off is that postman are contracted to work say from 9-5 or whatever there hours are. However my local sorning office are on a go slow because the mangers have said you have to work your hours no more doing your round then fucking off 3 hours early. If you finish your round you can do soemthing else useful. The union have said that it's memebr are being peniseled for working to quick!!! what other buinsess could you get away with the idea that you work yes work the hours you are paid for. Fuck me crazy man crazy new age busines shit that!

[Leggett]

The union have said that it's memebr are being peniseled

best typo ever.

[donkey]

What really fucks me off is that postman are contracted to work say from 9-5 or whatever there hours are. However my local sorning office are on a go slow because the mangers have said you have to work your hours no more doing your round then fucking off 3 hours early. If you finish your round you can do soemthing else useful. The union have said that it's memebr are being peniseled for working to quick!!! what other buinsess could you get away with the idea that you work yes work the hours you are paid for. Fuck me crazy man crazy new age busines shit that!

Depends on the job.  If you work in a job where you need to cover a position for an amount of time (say in a shop) then working to time is what you do.  If you work in a job where you need to achieve something (like delivering letters) then you work until the task is completed.  Provided you are doing the job properly and not just emptying your sack in the box of the young lady at number 69 and going home, that should be fine.  Most jobs can be sorted out in to working to time or working to task.  I always work to task, my bosses have always known that I'll complete the work on time and accurately however late I need to work, but equally if I finish early, I'll do nothing.  Sounds to me like the Royal Mail management are being twats.

[Simon Pieman]

I think people grumble about RM because the service has gone downhill.

As for illegal files, you can only view information on your file after you submit a request in writing. Even then, there is particular information you can't view as an employee under the Data Protection Act.

[Lumps]

lumps, just out of curiosity, why do you use couriers for business post?

Because a lot of the work I do is the writing, editing and supervising the physical production of business documents, ususally outline and full business cases for major capital developments. There's always a lot of fucking about with deadlines as contributors are ALWAYS late delivering thier elements of the work and so we're always working right up to deadline completing the damned things. As a result you've got to have someone that you can pay to park up outside reception and wait until you're ready to send out, and still guarantee to get the things where they're going on time.

As I say I know only too well that the buggers are not really much more reliable than the post. I had a courier on the phone one time having picked up the documents from our office in Wakefield unable to find the Department of Health offices in Quarry House in Leeds, one of the most distinctive and famous buildings in the city.

[Ralphy]

Bloody mail centre staff are always on strike!

I'm dreading it when our mail arrives from Swindon mail centre when Oxford closes.

We were briefed on friday morning about Swindon walking out, whats going on exactly?

[Reg Smeeton]

Bloody mail centre staff are always on strike!

I'm dreading it when our mail arrives from Swindon mail centre when Oxford closes.

We were briefed on friday morning about Swindon walking out, whats going on exactly?

 Probably Hereford away....there are a lot of STFC fans in Dorcan.