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Peter Venkman
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« Reply #45 on: Friday, August 1, 2008, 13:01:48 »

honestly?

I have upped my cpu to 3.8ghz @ 1.385v last night and ran Orthos for over an hour to stress test it. Turned on RealTemps and it was sat at just under 50deg.
Also looked in the bios and that was saying similar temps too.

As for the Vortex Neo i'm going to order one of those when i get my 4870 next month. Apparently (like you say) it dropps the temps down by a good 30deg

I used coretemp for my test temperature as I found realtemp under-read the 65nm core by up to 10 degrees, apparently relatemp is only 100% reliable with the 45nm core processors as it just geustimates the temperature of the processor based upon distance to the TJ max...a figure that Intel dont actually release to the public.

My temps were based upon the coretemp as I would rather err on the side of caution than assume the lower temp is right, as realtemp stated on 1.45v at 4ghz my processor was only running at 70 degrees (which is acceptable temps for the 65nm core) but the coretemp stated 10 degrees hotter.

If reltemp was 100% correct then I had no problem....so the jury is out on that!

The Vortexx Neos are bloody brilliant and a piece of piss to fit...takes 5 mins max and the average is about 25 to 35 degrees cooler on medium to full power after 10 mins or more running.

The Scythe Mine has a fan stuck firmly in the middle of a sandwhich of 2 coolers and expels the air to the back of the case exactly as the freezer 7 pro does.

http://www.oldspeak.org/images/scythe-mine-b/13-heatsink-all-round.jpg
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« Reply #46 on: Friday, August 1, 2008, 13:33:58 »

i'm running an E8400 45nm processor so i should be ok on RealTemp.

yeah i did a google of the Scythe Mine. Looks a meaty peice of kit that's for sure.
Is it a lot better than the Freezer Pro?Huh??

everyone on the Overclockers forum has raved about the Vortexx so it's definitely the choice for me next month.
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« Reply #47 on: Friday, August 1, 2008, 13:38:10 »

The Scythe mine for overclocking is a lot better than the Freezer 7 Pro....going by all the reviews I read before I bought it but for serious overclocking you have to go watercooled mate.

Heres one review of the coolers, the biggest set of tests I have seen which actually convinced me to buy the Scythe in the first place....

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=8757&page=116

I didnt go for the Thermaltake Big Typ VX because at the time I couldnt find any in the country!
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« Reply #48 on: Friday, August 1, 2008, 13:42:57 »

With the Vortexx Neo's tho....make sure you have a spare sys fan port on the Mobo because its only a 3 pin cable so it cant run off the 4 pin GPU port on the card itself, and these cables are pretty short about 5 inches in length, but they do supply a molex connector but I dont like having wires running all round my case.

Oh and read the reviews about the 4870 with the Vortexx Neo.....apparently its not as good with the ATI cards as it is with the Nvidia, as the 8800GT (which is what I use) has a notoriously shit fan that cant keep the card under 90 degrees on full load, whereas the Neos keep it to no higher than 69 on full load.

If its not as good at cooling you may be better off putting the extra £25 to a better graphics card like the 260 or 280 Nvidia card in the first place.
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« Reply #49 on: Friday, August 1, 2008, 14:03:15 »

Bloody hell John, I thought I was a geek.......

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« Reply #50 on: Friday, August 1, 2008, 14:23:48 »

for the money though surely an ATI 4870 is the better choice?!
from all the reviews i've read anyway.

I've also got a Crossfire board so i'm better off as once i've enough cash crossfire is where i'm heading.

my comp specs are
Foxconn P35AP-S, E8400 @ 3.8ghz, Freezer Pro, Corsair TX650w, SSP F1 750gig 32mb Cache, 4gig Hyper X 1066mhz DDR2 and a shitty 7900GT
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« Reply #51 on: Friday, August 1, 2008, 14:53:37 »

Bloody hell John, I thought I was a geek.......

 Lamo

Nah mate I am fully aware of my geekyness(!) lessons will not be offered!
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« Reply #52 on: Friday, August 1, 2008, 14:55:10 »

Apart from the 4(?) people who have posted regually in this thread does anyone have any idea what they are on about? Smiley

I think they are fitting a kitchen in their cars or something. Seems to be a lot of talk about sinks and fridges
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« Reply #53 on: Friday, August 1, 2008, 15:04:35 »

for the money though surely an ATI 4870 is the better choice?!
from all the reviews i've read anyway.

I've also got a Crossfire board so i'm better off as once i've enough cash crossfire is where i'm heading.

my comp specs are
Foxconn P35AP-S, E8400 @ 3.8ghz, Freezer Pro, Corsair TX650w, SSP F1 750gig 32mb Cache, 4gig Hyper X 1066mhz DDR2 and a shitty 7900GT

Yeah the 4870 is pound for pound the best value/performance but I personally prefer the Nvidia cards and for the same price you could get a 260, but then thats not a patch on the 280 or 9800GX2 but they are almost double the price.

In the same situation I would go for the 4870, but what I was getting at was the cooler thing, the 4870 with the Vortexx Neo appears to be not the best option, apparently you may as well stay with the stock cooler, according to overclockers.co.uk forums.

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« Reply #54 on: Friday, August 1, 2008, 15:17:34 »

ah i get what you mean.

it's something i'll look into a lot more cos the cards run hot. around 80deg apparently.

i've always been an Nvidia fan but i can't justify paying twice the price for very little gain.
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« Reply #55 on: Friday, August 1, 2008, 16:13:50 »

Apart from the 4(?) people who have posted regually in this thread does anyone have any idea what they are on about? Smiley

I think they are fitting a kitchen in their cars or something. Seems to be a lot of talk about sinks and fridges

they lost me around page 2.
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« Reply #56 on: Friday, August 1, 2008, 16:58:09 »

Well I never, I got home and tested the new PSU - dead. Tested the old PSU - works like a charm, although I'm sure it didn't work yesterday.

Never mind, all back up and running now. PSU on it's way back to ebuyer tomorrow.
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« Reply #57 on: Friday, August 1, 2008, 19:49:43 »

Sounds like the internal fuse blew then.

Good that you don't need to get a new motherboard and re-install windows
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« Reply #58 on: Friday, August 1, 2008, 21:45:28 »

Well I never, I got home and tested the new PSU - dead. Tested the old PSU - works like a charm, although I'm sure it didn't work yesterday.

Never mind, all back up and running now. PSU on it's way back to ebuyer tomorrow.

Good stuff Sam, a lot cheaper than buying a new CPU and Mobo.
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« Reply #59 on: Friday, August 1, 2008, 22:01:48 »

I have spent the evening cleaning my computer and doing some proper wire management. In doing so I noticed a tiny jumper in my hard drives so they've not been operating at full speed. I did wonder why they'd always seemed slower than expected  Doh

The jumper block was pushed in so far it was hard to see.
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