Both PES and FIFA have gone well passed their natural lifespan of meaningful updates. Someone needs to do something a bit different.
nice one. not sure what further innovation you can have to a simulation of a game with set rules
There is always something that you can do, it just happens to demand greater skill and more time with each iterations. Which Seabass at KCEJ happens to have plenty of the first of but less of the second now that PES has become such big business for Konami.
As for the guys at FIFA their problem seems to be that they either try to redesign everything or nothing. Either they spend money and overhaul the whole game with lots of new box-ticking features or they just update the kits and put out exactly the same game again. There seems no chance to just refine what was done before.