STFC Transfer Rumours

[UTR]

I’m like a broken record with this but under normal circumstances, January is a horrible time to do business, especially longer term business. Fee’s are inflated, clubs are sucked into more desperate business and the chances of longer term signings without a plan becoming wasted investment are higher.

The “perfect” setup going into January is a mostly settled squad with the January window used to fine tune/shake the dead weight and a rough eye on plans for next seasons squad so that if the odd player comes up in Jan that suits what we want to do in the summer then we can be proactive and get them in now.

However absolutely nothing about the clubs setup atm fills me with confidence that they have plans for next week let alone broad ideas for what their summer business will look like so we’re trying to navigate a very difficult window on hard mode.

Couple that with us having a threadbare squad that we need to do summer transfer window quantity business to this month, well they’ll be geniuses if they pull this off.

[Riddick]

I think a lot of people are on the fence now with Flynn because of budget restrictions or whatever.

I'm of the opinion that he hasn't got it sadly. So my concern now is that he is rebuilding this squad when i'm not convinced he is the man to take us forward. Take that shity forward he tried to sign when we sold Wakeling who has since bombed in the conference.

I can't think of a single player that has got better since he has been here?

But as with last year and the mess of replacing Lindsey, sacking a manager and trying to recruit in Jan is a disaster.

Especially with the rumours/whispers of who actually makes the footballing decisions behind the scenes.

[Nemo]

I can't think of a single player that has got better since he has been here?

To be fair, how many candidates are there of people who were here last year who have played decent roles this year and last?

Brewitt - much improved, I think most would say
FBT - better going forward, worse defending
Khan - better discipline, maybe mildly more consistent?
McEachran - worse
Austin - worse, but age plays a part there
Hutton - pretty similar
Shade - maybe better? But not much either way

Has anyone else played enough to judge really?

[Riddick]

To be fair, how many candidates are there of people who were here last year who have played decent roles this year and last?

Brewitt - much improved, I think most would say
FBT - better going forward, worse defending
Khan - better discipline, maybe mildly more consistent?
McEachran - worse
Austin - worse, but age plays a part there
Hutton - pretty similar
Shade - maybe better? But not much either way

Has anyone else played enough to judge really?

Brewitt - Much of a muchness but like LSPOD point out, he sometimes look better because of his last ditch tackles to cover his own mistakes. I don't think he has got better.
FBT - Worse and has declines across the season
McEachran - Worse by a lot
Austin - Worse, sure age may play a part
Hutton - Same (but stats show a lot less assists)
Shade/Khan - Who knows both have 1 good game in 5, plus injuries etc.
RHM - Worse but injured a lot

Maybe we should count always injured as making them worse as well. Clayton played a lot of games first season, but not this one.

There is nobody you look at and say, yeah he has made them better.

[Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG]

Just some musings going back to that unbeaten 9 game run, I feel that the tempo was higher, energy levels were higher and we were so much more forward thinking. Has that ended due to squad size or fatigue or have players downed tools in recent weeks? I'd love to see the running stats and see the differences

I think its both.

There is no doubt the wheels started falling off as soon as we went to two games a week, so fatigue with the small squad plays a part. But as time has gone on the dire situation has become more apparent so players are bound to get demotivated.

[Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG]

I think a lot of people are on the fence now with Flynn because of budget restrictions or whatever.

I'm the same on him as I was with Morris, he's been sold a pub but is doing shit even with that considered..

[Jimmy Quinn]

It would be nice if Clem had the balls to do a live phone in on BBC Wilts or a pre-match Interview something Power used to do quite regularly.

[Riddick]

I'm the same on him as I was with Morris, he's been sold a pub but is doing shit even with that considered..

I was told very negative things about what Morris was like behind the scenes etc.

However i think the difference is Morris had no chance to change his squad. He had what 1 day, and the option to sign people out of contract. And most fans were happy relatively with McEachran and Brewitt. I think Morris was also right about Austin, and i would have prefered he was not extended to this year and the money spent elsewhere.

Flynn had the summer. His hands may have been tied a little, but he had that period to get something together?

Not saying one is better than the other.

All that makes me laugh is the people that compared to Flynn to Wellens. I laughed at the time and laugh even more now. Wellens is miles ahead of Flynn.

[Hyabb17]

It would be nice if Clem had the balls to do a live phone in on BBC Wilts or a pre-match Interview something Power used to do quite regularly.

Andrew Hawes said that they put a request in but get nothing back, similarly to the OSC. Doesn’t give a fuck at all.

[Jimmy Quinn]

Andrew Hawes said that they put a request in but get nothing back, similarly to the OSC. Doesn’t give a fuck at all.

Cheers for the update.

[Power to people]

Is Flynn doing shit due to the restrictions on him with the players he has to sign or is he just not doing well, under Clem we only seem to have had Garner that done well and look at the team he had around him, obviously contributed to that as he has not been able to replicate what he done anywhere else, and he was not really signing many of the players.

Under Clem there has not been any consistency of managers, or managers having time to do a complete rebuild until Flynn.

But with Flynn he seems to be the master of his own downfall spouting in the summer how he wanted a small squad, then when the window closed he was happy with the squad, he had the opportunity to shape his own squad as he was here from end of last season, so knew what was needed, and under current form I suspect a lot of managers would have been sacked by now.

We don't want to seem to be sacking managers every season - but also we know about the issues above Flynn and yes he is not going to come out and speak against his paymasters but equally he does not have to come out and defend them.

While I have been on the fence for a while with Flynn I'm now starting to to climb over it but also feel if we brought in someone else then is it just going to be more of them same, until either clem sorts things out and run's things more professional or until he sell's up to someone that wants to run a football club correctly and does see it as a club that can have ambition and can make money if run correctly.

At least Clem cant run the club into the ground that is the one saving fact as he has £7m in the club and will want as much of that back when it is sold on

With the injury record so bad as well you need to question the medical team & fitness staff & sports science at the club, I'll be honest I don't know how all this is run now, if it is done on the cheap nowadays is that why or if it really is we are just unlucky and players don't hurry back to play in a losing team.

[Hyabb17]

Cheers for the update.

That was said last night.

[Jimmy Quinn]

That was said last night.

Funny how he don’t want the publicity anymore

[No Longer Posh Red]

At least Clem cant run the club into the ground that is the one saving fact as he has £7m in the club and will want as much of that back when it is sold on

I said as much recently that this was possibly the one possible positive.

One other thing that struck me, a number of people have said that Standing is effectively the owner in all but name, if that was the case why would Clem have needed to borrow money to clear the debentures, surely Standing would have just lent Clem the money & added it to what Clem already owes him.

Clearly there’s something fishy behind the scenes but not sure quite what it is.

On the Flynn debate, I do think that he can spot a player.
Not that it’s a really high bar but Mahoney, Kemp, Young, Dokes & Kinsella are his signings and have been some of the better performers this season.

[Batch]

people have said that Standing is effectively the owner in all but name, if that was the case why would Clem have needed to borrow money to clear the debentures, surely Standing would have just lent Clem the money & added it to what Clem already owes him.

Based on nothing whatsoever - he's waiting to see what comes of the court case and aftermath before adding more cash. He may be disbarred from owning a club in which case he walks away?!

Or not.

There doesn't seem to be additional money going in, would be nice to know £8M is a reasonable amount to go out.