sven

[janaage]

Sven was the best manager England have had for years, and wasn't doing a bad job at City. It takes longer than a season to really get your own side together IMO, ridiculous decision.

Best manager since Hoddle maybe, but that really isn't saying that much is it?

[A Gent Orange]

No City weren't superb but they were better. They are making the step. The step between being a team that is always bobbling around in mid-table and moving to challenge the top six or so. They were also having to do it quickly because that is what Shinawatra demands - mostly for ego/domestic reasons.

Sure Sven has spent money and much of it hasn't worked out but he has had to build that team in one-season. Building teams takes time, getting a squad that fits together takes time. It is a whole new team.

Shinawatra is demanding big signing and Sven can't deliver that because big names don't want to play mid-table football in Manchester. Sure, it's easy to attract people to Old Trafford but City? They aren't even in Europe. Shinawatra seems to think that if you spend it they will come. He doesn't seem to get that good players - and he wants world class ones - want world class clubs.

I'm not defending Sven massively. He's a prosaic manager who produces prosaic sides with mostly prosaic players. But at the moment Shinawatra is asking for too much.

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[dell boy]

Sven was the best manager England have had for years, and wasn't doing a bad job at City. It takes longer than a season to really get your own side together IMO, ridiculous decision.

Best manager since Hoddle maybe, but that really isn't saying that much is it?

England currently have the best manager since Hoddle, even though I thought Hoddle was shit and the rest who followed were total wank.
Coppello looks like a straight talking bloke, who will play it the way he wants and not the way the papers or his senior players want him to play.
Sven was bleeding dreadful in my opinion.
Will never forget his forward selections for the last world cup, I think he picked the players on account of the looks of the wags, he was/is a total pillock.
Hes had fortunates to spend at Man City and brought dross.

[janaage]

No City weren't superb but they were better. They are making the step. The step between being a team that is always bobbling around in mid-table and moving to challenge the top six or so. They were also having to do it quickly because that is what Shinawatra demands - mostly for ego/domestic reasons.

Sure Sven has spent money and much of it hasn't worked out but he has had to build that team in one-season. Building teams takes time, getting a squad that fits together takes time. It is a whole new team.

Shinawatra is demanding big signing and Sven can't deliver that because big names don't want to play mid-table football in Manchester. Sure, it's easy to attract people to Old Trafford but City? They aren't even in Europe. Shinawatra seems to think that if you spend it they will come. He doesn't seem to get that good players - and he wants world class ones - want world class clubs.

I'm not defending Sven massively. He's a prosaic manager who produces prosaic sides with mostly prosaic players. But at the moment Shinawatra is asking for too much.

Sorry, no work to do today  

Some good points there, perhaps the way Hansen and co lapped up the City start to the season did not help, as it may have raised the owners' expectation levels to an unrealistic plateau.

As someone else said elsewhere on t'web, you sell your club to some money rich mad man from some foreign clime and what stops him from making such rash decisions.

[Matchworn Shirts]

I think Sven was wrongfully criticised by the English media, who were the cause of some of the nation to believe they have truely world class player when most of over-rated (by the media again). Hence why so many English people think Sven did a shite job. OK he was defensive at times but overall I thought he did pretty well.

Sven was Englands best manager since SBR

[Don Rogers Shop]

DRS he has also spent alot of money more than most City Managers have been given in years gone by, look at the signings below, most of them flops:

Look at his signings though, nearly 40 million: In: Vedran Valeri Bojinov Injured(Fiorentina, undisclosed), Corluka (Dinamo Zagreb, Undisclosed) been a good right back at times from what i have seen , Elano , been good(Shakhtar Donetsk, £8m), Javier Garrido (Real Sociedad, £1.5m) have not seen granted, Joe R Bianchi (Reggina, £8.8m) was shit but thay are recouping cash, Geovanni (Cruzeiro, free) fuck knows, G Fernandes (Sion, undisc) fuck knows Petrov (atheltico madrid) quality Benjani (Portsmouth) was scoring goals

Considering he had 2-3 weeks to get these players thats not too bad imo

[thepeoplesgame]

No City weren't superb but they were better. They are making the step. The step between being a team that is always bobbling around in mid-table and moving to challenge the top six or so. They were also having to do it quickly because that is what Shinawatra demands - mostly for ego/domestic reasons.

Sure Sven has spent money and much of it hasn't worked out but he has had to build that team in one-season. Building teams takes time, getting a squad that fits together takes time. It is a whole new team.

Shinawatra is demanding big signing and Sven can't deliver that because big names don't want to play mid-table football in Manchester. Sure, it's easy to attract people to Old Trafford but City? They aren't even in Europe. Shinawatra seems to think that if you spend it they will come. He doesn't seem to get that good players - and he wants world class ones - want world class clubs.

I'm not defending Sven massively. He's a prosaic manager who produces prosaic sides with mostly prosaic players. But at the moment Shinawatra is asking for too much.

Sorry, no work to do today  

That's saved me a job, although I rate Sven a touch more highly. In one season he has taken a team that didn't score a single home goal in the entire second half of last season and turned them into a team that is four points behind Aston Villa, who most people I hope would recognise have also had a promising season, and seven points ahead of the team in 10th. He has effectively moved them from the bottom tier of the Premier League into the second tier. Progress next season would be to top that second tier (Everton's postion) and then use European football to attempt to bridge the gap to the top four in the future. Oh, and they have played some genuinely fine football on occasion, such as in their wholly merited win at Old Trafford.

Spurs' record since they won the League Cup has been pretty terrible, their fans can be glad this tinpot dictator is not chairman of their club.

[janaage]

"SBR" ha ha, dude you seriously have memory problems calling Sir Bob a top england manager, or at least implying it.  Average in 86, awful in 88 and mediocre in 90?  Italia 90 does my head in the way everyone has this rose tinted spectacle way of thinking about Robson's team.

Awful in the groups, last min winner v Belgium, nearly knocked out against Cameroon and then after 5 matches they play well enough against the Germans, only to lose.

In 88 Robson was about as popular as Sydney Cooke at Mothercare.

[janaage]

double bubble.

[Matchworn Shirts]

Sir Bobby got England to the World Cup Semis and they lost on penalties to us, which is unlucky. They could have ended up in the final - how many other managers for England have done the same. That is my case for saying Robson is a top manager

[janaage]

I appreciate he got them to the semi-final, but I honestly think history has played it's part in elevating Robson to the level of demi-God.  As at the time he was not that highly thought of at all.  In fact some of the criticism in the mid late eighties aimed at Robson was pretty close to the bone at times.

[Colin Todd]

Cant really add anything that hasnt already been said, other than I'm in the Sven has done a decent job this season camp.

Yeah he had money to spend, but city were dire last season and he had a couple of weeks to assemble a squad. Losing 2 quality defenders in recent weeks has hardly helped their form either, they would have won on saturday with Richards & Dunne in the team

[stfctownenda]

Cant really add anything that hasnt already been said, other than I'm in the Sven has done a decent job this season camp.

Yeah he had money to spend, but city were dire last season and he had a couple of weeks to assemble a squad. Losing 2 quality defenders in recent weeks has hardly helped their form either, they would have won on saturday with Richards & Dunne in the team

There form has been patchy since December not just in recent weeks though and Richards and Dunne have played in some of those games.

[Don Rogers Shop]

So on that basis should everton sack david moyes?

[land_of_bo]

My sauces told me that Sven didn't offer Thaksin anywhere near enough money for the orgy he had with his 17 year old lady boy son and 12 year old Khao San Road hooker daughter....








Allegedly.