Doctor Who Series 30 ( I think)

[flammableBen]

I can't wait to watch it again  

[reeves4england]

That was great...got to wait a whole week now though  :evil:

[flammableBen]

It was exactly how a two-parter should be. Set up loads of questions (maybe a few too many) and left you on an awesome cliff hanger. Relegated the Sontaran(can't be arsed to check spelling) effort a couple of divisions, in comparison that just felt like they'd split an episode in two for the sake of it.

[reeves4england]

It was exactly how a two-parter should be. Set up loads of questions (maybe a few too many) and left you on an awesome cliff hanger. Relegated the Sontaran(can't be arsed to check spelling) effort a couple of divisions, in comparison that just felt like they'd split an episode in two for the sake of it.

I actually shouted at the screen when it ended as the cliffhanger was so annoying! Exactly how it should be I suppose!

[flammableBen]

Just started watching it again. Here be spoilers if you haven't watched it yet......















I've put them in white so higlight them if you want to read (I'm not sure the background is white on the subsliver theme, but it was worth a try). Definitely worth watching yourself if you haven't yet. It'll be on iplayer all week.

One thing I'm pretty certain is that the saving people is to do with the giant hard disk at the core or whatever. The library, possibly through the little girl in a sort of reverse matrix style thing, saved the people before they got eaten by the shadows. Neat.

I'd guess that the River Song bird would be the Doctors Daughter from the other episode, but that doesn't make sense because then she'd know the young doctor and donna. Unless it's explained with a big time fuck / recolliding of separate dimensions (the one with Rose in) sort of thing. Maybe the Donna we see isn't the proper Donna Noble at all. Maybe she's supposed to be dead or something.

I'll be disappointed if there isn't something tied in with the biographies in the library being wrong or different from what we've seen. Maybe linked in with E.R. birds Tardis covered diary thing.

I'm only about 5 mins in so I should probably watch some more. Definitely got to watch the Dr. Moon bit with the kid a bit more closely. He seemed like an ace mysterious character. Suddenly telling the poor kid that all her nightmares were real, cruel but ace.
Here be the end of the highlighted stuff.

[flammableBen]

I'll just keep this one less spoilery....

Check out the symbol on the security camera when the Doctor uses his sonic screwdriver on it near the start. Then a few seconds later check out the rug on the floor with the little girl. Nice detail.

[flammableBen]

[spoiler again (highlight text)]
Just before the Archaeology crew turn up, the node face statue thing start saying "Reminder: Library has been breached, the others are coming". The "Reminder" bit hints that they've been here for some time. Maybe I'm reading into it a bit much, but maybe they've been here a while and River Song's got hold of some sort of Diary of the doctor's.

Probably a bit out there
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[yeo]

awww I wanna look at the Spoilers but then I dont,so I wont...or will I

[flammableBen]

There only spoilers if you haven't seen it yet. I don't know anything special about next week. Unfortunately.

That symbol thing I said appears a few times.

[yeo]

But I havent seen it yet,im saving it for Breakfast time

[flammableBen]

fair enough. don't highlight them then.

Just spotted the crazy symbol again.

[spoilers]
I think that the little girl is the conciousness of the library's computers. It's created a little world for its self over the century and gone a little bit mad / forgotten what it is, but  has still retained its connection with what's going down in the actual physicall library. If that makes sense.
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[Bogus Dave]

like thr who on a t=ou r of blackpool [leasue beach

[reeves4england]

Some interesting thoughts Ben. I find it really intriguing as there's so much developing in the plot and so many questions to be answered

[potential spoilers]
Who is the black doctor guy and how does he know about the library?
Who is the river song bird? Is she a time traveller? Or has she acquired some knowledge and is tricking the doctor into a trap? But then what's all that with the screwdriver?!
What happened to Donna?
What is the way out of the library? How is the little girl connected to it?
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So much to be answered!!!

[flammableBen]

Well then, nobody updates this thread. The second part of the library effort was brilliant, even if you take into account the silly bits; the doctor having a trapdoor exit was made up for by the rest of another awesome episode.

When you run with The Doctor, it feels like it will never end.But however hard you try, you can't run forever.Everybody knows that everybody dies, and nobody knows it like The Doctor;. I do think that all the skies of all the worlds, might just turn dark, if he ever, for one moment, accepts it.

Everybody knows that everybody dies, but not everyday. Not today.

Some days are so, so blessed. Some days nobody dies at all. etc.

I still haven't watched the recent Saturday's effort, but I've heard it's ace. I'm hoping the above, from last week, is some awesome foreshadowing to a loss of ideals from The Doctor.

We'll have to wait and see, but then we've already had the Billie Piper trailers, about the spreading darkness. It's not a huge leap to make.
Some days are special.

[ghanimah]

Saturday's episode was up there with one the best of the series imho.

Ok it was a bit slow to start with and set wasn't entirely convincing - you never quite got the impression they were not in a set in a warehouse somewhere, but when the episode got going, it was fantastic psychological stuff - it all went rather 'Lord of Flies' on us.