The appeal of Dirty Leeds....

[Luci]

As said in another thread

there are plenty of well run clubs outside the league who can take a place.

So kick the dirty Leeds out of the league!

[Arriba]

so do we slate the board of leeds for inheriting the problems they have.yet try to excuse fitton and co because the problems were not theirs in the first place?
it's double standards if you ask me

[reeves4england]

so do we slate the board of leeds for inheriting the problems they have.yet try to excuse fitton and co because the problems were not theirs in the first place?
it's double standards if you ask me

No, we slate Leeds for complaining about what most see as a fair punishment, and taking it to court after signing an agreement that they wouldn't.
If I remember correctly, the FL bent the rules to even allow Leeds to compete this season

[Power to people]

so do we slate the board of leeds for inheriting the problems they have.yet try to excuse fitton and co because the problems were not theirs in the first place?
it's double standards if you ask me

Get out of it, we all know very well what Papa Smurf was up to when he put them into admin.....and how he bought them back by being a total arse and manipulating everyone involved.

That bloke is a prize A CUNT

[Tails]

so do we slate the board of leeds for inheriting the problems they have.yet try to excuse fitton and co because the problems were not theirs in the first place?
it's double standards if you ask me

Arriba this is a serious question, do you try and question / disagree with most people on here on purpose? Even that Chris Taylor incident, all you said was that he was a good player!

[dell boy]

so do we slate the board of leeds for inheriting the problems they have.yet try to excuse fitton and co because the problems were not theirs in the first place?
it's double standards if you ask me

Get out of it, we all know very well what Papa Smurf was up to when he put them into admin.....and how he bought them back by being a total arse and manipulating everyone involved.

That bloke is a prize A CUNT

The Leeds fans agree 100% with you!!

[BANGKOK RED]

so do we slate the board of leeds for inheriting the problems they have.yet try to excuse fitton and co because the problems were not theirs in the first place?
it's double standards if you ask me

The CURRENT points deduction is in place because the CURRENT board broke some rules RE: coming out of administration. And so to to answer your question....

YES

I recommend that you read up on it a bit before posting.

[Arriba]

so do we slate the board of leeds for inheriting the problems they have.yet try to excuse fitton and co because the problems were not theirs in the first place?
it's double standards if you ask me

Arriba this is a serious question, do you try and question / disagree with most people on here on purpose? Even that Chris Taylor incident, all you said was that he was a good player!

serious answer,no.i meant what i said.
and where am i disagreeing with people?its my opinion as always and a general comment.it isn't taking any individual to task like you are with me is it?.if it means my opinion differs to someone elses then thats the way it is.i dont set out to disagree with people.please point out where i am disagreeing and questioning people on here.your generalisation would point to you thinking i do it regularly.
infact people agree with stuff i say alot of the time.if you want to take me to task thats fine. but at least have some idea what you are going on about!

and i  thought chris tayyyylor looked a good player.so what?
he did!what is your point tails?i cant see what you are on about?

and where are your opinions on the issue of the thread?or are you just trying to argue with me for the sake of it?
maybe a look closer to home wouldn't go a miss?


leeds are not much different to ourselves really.and that was the point i was getting at.we could have been in a similar situation and then i think the stuff leeds are getting slated for would funnily get ignored by our fans if the boot was on the other foot.can we blame them for what they are doing now?
my original point was in no way a dig at our board before others miss the point further.it was how we as fans look at different clubs situations.

[Arriba]

so do we slate the board of leeds for inheriting the problems they have.yet try to excuse fitton and co because the problems were not theirs in the first place?
it's double standards if you ask me

The CURRENT points deduction is in place because the CURRENT board broke some rules RE: coming out of administration. And so to to answer your question....

YES

I recommend that you read up on it a bit before posting.

so none of it was inherited then?
it was all down to the current lot eh?
i'm no expert on the situaltion but i know a bit about what is going on.
and i find it a bit daft that some of us are so quick to stick the boot in when we have been in virtually the same boat.

[Simon Pieman]

I sort of agree with Arriba.

Punish Bates further certainly, but Leeds don't deserve to be chucked out. They also don't deserve the points back though and I hate their scummy club.

However our fans are just as bad at bleating on about our demotion all those years ago. It is a fan's nature to moan at decisions which are made by the FL/FA/Court as they are not in direct control of the playing and coaching staff, which is what a fan pays to watch. I can probably sympathise with them from that respect.

[pumbaa]

Apparently the decision of the tribunal will now be made on 1 May. I wouldn't bet my mortgage on it though.....

I kind of sympathise with Leeds fans. They are certainly paying a big price for living the dream a few years back.

Having said that, that corrupt old cunt Bates deserves everything he gets, and I for one hope the courts uphold the original points deduction and put an end to this saga. The only people who stand to gain anything from this are the lawyers.

[BANGKOK RED]

so do we slate the board of leeds for inheriting the problems they have.yet try to excuse fitton and co because the problems were not theirs in the first place?
it's double standards if you ask me

The CURRENT points deduction is in place because the CURRENT board broke some rules RE: coming out of administration. And so to to answer your question....

YES

I recommend that you read up on it a bit before posting.

so none of it was inherited then?
it was all down to the current lot eh?
i'm no expert on the situaltion but i know a bit about what is going on.
and i find it a bit daft that some of us are so quick to stick the boot in when we have been in virtually the same boat.

Yes and no.

You have to bear in mind here that Leeds where deducted points initially for going into administration, whether or Bates and Co. where at the Helm at the time I am not sure.

However the Second points deduction the following season was incurred because because Leeds did not exit administration via a CVA. At that time Bates and Co. where without doubt at the helm and broke teh rules.

And so again yes, the 15 point deduction THIS seasons deduction lays firmly with bates, however whomever is to blame for the previous seasons deduction is questionable, and also quite irrelevant really.

Anyway, we where not quite in the same boat because we just got skint, Leeds however tried to cheat and got busted for it.

[BANGKOK RED]

Oh,

And for the record I do sympathise with the Leeds fans as their club is being made a mockery of by one individual. Theres not much that they can do about it really.

(Although they don't complain much about his money)

[Iffy's Onion Bhaji]

Kick them out of the league. Bates is a crook!  

[Batch]

Leeds will argue that they broke no rules, and the 15 point punishment is unlawful.

The thing I worry about is if they get all or some of their points back, then the playoff places or even promotion is being decided in the court of law. What happens to the clubs affected by the decision should the points be given back. Is it fair they have made decisions with possible financial repercussions based on the league table with the deduction?  Is it fair that the someone may miss out because of it?

This could rumble on and on through the courts if other clubs affected by the outcome decide to take legal action too.

I guess the only thing that would be good for football is that they either lose their appeal, or they get some points back but not enough to influence the league in any way. But then I suppose there will be an appeal...