Malpas.......

[janaage]

I agree with hertha, the man deserves a little time.  The fact that so many people were so negative about the bloke "because he wasn't a name" really peeved me off.

[Don Rogers Shop]

Commingues and Easton had been our best 2 players this year they are both playing out of position now with a perfectly capable left back sitting on the bench .

Comminges has done well at left back. Jack Smith looked good at right back until Southend. I don't think that's a fair point. Easton has got forward a lot more since his move to the right. I don't think he's particularly good at that position though, so I think that point is fair.

Blair Sturrock been playing well recently but is left on the bench when we are chasing the result in favour of Zaboub who has been ineffective on the left hand side in recent months let alone on the right hand side

Mcgovern has been shit on the wing and in the middle and our strikers are so low on confidence its scary yet as I said before the only one who has reason to be confident is left on the bench for 90 ficking minute

Well now you've just contradicted yourself. Funnily enough we only had one free substitute when Zaaboub was subbed on. If McGovern was as shit as you say he was (which I think he was) then surely you have to change it around a bit. The problem was mainly in midfield for the whole game, not up front.

Jerel Ifil and Aljofree they are looking like Sunday league footballers at the moment and im afraid that is down to one person

It'll be interesting to see if that is right. I'm amazed that players can get so lazy and get back to bad habits so quickly. The basics seemingly need a lot of work I would agree.

I understand what you are saying Si but my point is we are not getting the results by playing our best two players this season out of position . Granted They are both playing well still but is that at a risk of every other player?  

There was no contradiction in my McGovern rant I personally would have just taken him off for Sturrock instead and actually taken a risk at home and played 3 strikers up front.

There is no fact behind why Ifil and Aljofree are playing so poor and I suppose it could just be that it’s a massive coincidence that we have lost all confidence since he took over . Up until now I have said lets back him but as game after game goes by I find myself unable to feel confident with him as manager that’s my problem.

[dell boy]

I haven't been critical of Malpas up until now as I thought he deserved a chance to stamp his own style on the squad.

After the Carlisle game I really thought we'd turned the corner and the days of attractive, free flowing football were about to return.

Now I think that he's on to a loser: he's never had fan support (If Ling had got the job, we'd all be singing 'Martin Lings Red and White Army') but it appears the players aren't supporting him either. Ifil and Aljofree aren't being asked to do anything more than they were under Sturrock, but for some reason they've forgotten how to competently defend.

To be honest I feel a bit sorry for Malpas, a lot of supporters don't want him , never did and were very negative from the off. The more results go against him, the more people will jump on him.

I don't know anything about what goes on behind the scenes, but I just think that having Byrne and Williams as his assistants was a bad move. If Malpas stays in the summer it wouldn't surprise me if they left.

I still won't slag the bloke off, if he's here next season and our first 15 games yield the same results as we've had recently, then I'll want him out!

 :goodpost:

[Iffy's Onion Bhaji]

Hertha does make a good point about Bryne and Williams as well. Maybe getting some better coaches/assistant in in the summer will help?

[DV]

I haven't been critical of Malpas up until now as I thought he deserved a chance to stamp his own style on the squad.

After the Carlisle game I really thought we'd turned the corner and the days of attractive, free flowing football were about to return.

Now I think that he's on to a loser: he's never had fan support (If Ling had got the job, we'd all be singing 'Martin Lings Red and White Army') but it appears the players aren't supporting him either. Ifil and Aljofree aren't being asked to do anything more than they were under Sturrock, but for some reason they've forgotten how to competently defend.

To be honest I feel a bit sorry for Malpas, a lot of supporters don't want him , never did and were very negative from the off. The more results go against him, the more people will jump on him.

I don't know anything about what goes on behind the scenes, but I just think that having Byrne and Williams as his assistants was a bad move. If Malpas stays in the summer it wouldn't surprise me if they left.

I still won't slag the bloke off, if he's here next season and our first 15 games yield the same results as we've had recently, then I'll want him out!

My worry is, if we do give him 15 games next season and he isnt up to scratch and then we get rid of him we've wasted another season.

A new guy will come in and we'll have to give him 10-15 games to find his feet, then another few months to bring in his own players. Then give him the summer to do his own pre-season....

If Malpas isnt up to the job, the time to get rid is the end of the season as soon as the last match is over....so the new manager has the summer and pre-season to do what he wants.

At this moment in time I see no point in wasting the pre-season on Malpas because he'll be gone by November

[Peter Venkman]

I haven't been critical of Malpas up until now as I thought he deserved a chance to stamp his own style on the squad.

After the Carlisle game I really thought we'd turned the corner and the days of attractive, free flowing football were about to return.

Now I think that he's on to a loser: he's never had fan support (If Ling had got the job, we'd all be singing 'Martin Lings Red and White Army') but it appears the players aren't supporting him either. Ifil and Aljofree aren't being asked to do anything more than they were under Sturrock, but for some reason they've forgotten how to competently defend.

To be honest I feel a bit sorry for Malpas, a lot of supporters don't want him , never did and were very negative from the off. The more results go against him, the more people will jump on him.

I don't know anything about what goes on behind the scenes, but I just think that having Byrne and Williams as his assistants was a bad move. If Malpas stays in the summer it wouldn't surprise me if they left.

I still won't slag the bloke off, if he's here next season and our first 15 games yield the same results as we've had recently, then I'll want him out!

 :goodpost:

 :toppost:

[STFC Bart]

Get rid in the summer.

If he stays we will go backwards-fast. And sacking him 15 games in will leave a manager with his players.

And, what contacts does he have to bring in anyone decent anyway?

Say give him a chance if you like- but if he stays for pre-season you can write off next season

[herthab]

I see your point Dan, but what if we get rid at the end of the season and the new guy turns out to be shit? We'll be no better off.

The successful teams seem to be mainly those that give a manager time, look at Walsall: they were shocking at the beginning of the season but the chairman kept faith in Richard Money and now they're flying. If it was up to their fans he'd probably be gone.

Some managers come in a have instant success and some take a little time. (And some fail, obviously!)

[DV]

I see your point Dan, but what if we get rid at the end of the season and the new guy turns out to be shit? We'll be no better off.

The successful teams seem to be mainly those that give a manager time, look at Walsall: they were shocking at the beginning of the season but the chairman kept faith in Richard Money and now they're flying. If it was up to their fans he'd probably be gone.

Some managers come in a have instant success and some take a little time. (And some fail, obviously!)

If we replace Malpas with a shit manager in the summer you are right, we wont be any better off.....but if we do appoint another shit manager I dont think we'll be any worse off to be honest.

[Arriba]

if we get rid it must be done now.this will give a new man 7 games to asses the squad and plan for next season.you cannot wait until pre season when contracts would have been dished out to make a managerial change.that would be crazy

[RobertT]

Can someone tell me which of the team who have beaten us should we have beaten instead?

I'll give Huddersfield away, but we did also beat them under Malpas as well.

Maybe Walsall? but they were at the end of a purple patch, would love to play them now as they are in decline.

Look at the start of the season up until Port Vale.  All the teams bar 2 are now struggling below us or around us.  That's the period where Sturrock got results.

Now look at who Malpas' team has been beaten by that we played before he came as well.  We hadn't beaten one of them, in fact we lost to most of them.  It's situation of the run of fixtures recently.  The only time to really judge him would be after the last game of the season, the last 4 are the games we might well claim we SHOULD be looking to beat.

From the Vale game, which was under Sturrock, we went on a run of W1 D1 L6 - against the same sort of teams we've just played now.

Look at the list of teams we beat under Sturrock, Tranmere aside, all bottom of the table teams.

I'm not saying I believe Malpas to be great, or shit, I'm just saying you'd think we went on a top of the tabel bashing period under Sturrock.  It's unfair to compare unless it's like for like, so on that basis I'll do my comparing at seasons end.

[Batch]

I agree with hertha, the man deserves a little time.  The fact that so many people were so negative about the bloke "because he wasn't a name" really peeved me off.

It wasn't because he "wasn't a name" as such. It was because he wasn't proven, and was therefore a higher risk.

And yes I think Malpas deserves more time, and that we have been on bad runs before and also made the play-offs under the same manager (e.g. King).

The only genuine reason I can see for getting rid of Malpas now or in the summer is 1) Relagation. 2) if 11 players stand up and say he's shit and they can't play under him.

[Don Rogers Shop]

Rob we don’t have any divine right to beat anyone in this league and I agree things were not Amazing under sturrock but with the same set of players he did not have a bad run like this did he?

My personal opinion is I don’t think he is up to the job but my opinion does not matter its up to Fitton to decide that .As for people saying he was not taken to by the fans I agree but he could of turned them on his side with points and performances which he simply has not done .

[Don Rogers Shop]

Double post

[RobertT]

Rob we don’t have any divine right to beat anyone in this league and I agree things were not Amazing under sturrock but with the same set of players he did not have a bad run like this did he?

My personal opinion is I don’t think he is up to the job but my opinion does not matter its up to Fitton to decide that .As for people saying he was not taken to by the fans I agree but he could of turned them on his side with points and performances which he simply has not done .

That's the point.  UNder Sturrock we began a run of W1 D1 L6, that happened when we started playing the top hlf teams.  The good run, if that is what we call it, under Sturrock was against teams like Bournemouth, Luton, Cheltenham & Gillingham - all played close to each other.  We have to let Malpas go through that run of games before we can compare.

The teams we have been beaten by, we also got beat by under previous Managers, or at best drew.