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« Reply #15 on: Monday, March 24, 2008, 20:47:59 »

7 games left.
Give him untill the end of the season. We aren't going to go down ( I hope) and if things don' improve then get rid.
But then I suppose if things don't improve we might go down.
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« Reply #16 on: Monday, March 24, 2008, 20:49:09 »

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It's not the players or formation that are the main problems, it's the utter inability to get the basics right.

I know what you are saying and I don't disagree. I suppose the big question is if, say, Jerel Ifil can't pass to a team-mate, is it Malpas's fault?

If it's because he won't perform for Malpas, do we sack Malpas, or do we ship out Ifil?

A lot of our players have been an absolute disgrace this year, and are getting away with it.


It's more than that imo. Here's a list of some of the things I would like Malpas to sort out:

* Defending set pieces - every player should have a role and know what they are doing. No opposition player should be free in or around the box.

* Teach McGovern how to tackle.

* Tell players to offer movement for throw ins. We are mega crap at this.

* Teach the middle men that when we have the ball one (at least) needs to get forward.

* Defensive line needs to push up more. Defenders should mark their man tighter.

* Team needs more movement and cohesion in general. Every player should be looking to exploit space and give the holder of the ball options.

There's loads of other stuff, but it's all pretty basic. I'm not asking Malpas to teach them how to do Ronaldo stepovers or Ronaldinho flip-flap skills, just work out the basics in training and make the players get the basics right on the day.
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« Reply #17 on: Monday, March 24, 2008, 20:56:16 »

Si - if it was that easy, you would be Manager and MM would be spending his time gobbing off on message boards.

Things are not great at the moment...but neither are they as black & white as you presume.  Give the man some space.
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« Reply #18 on: Monday, March 24, 2008, 20:56:28 »

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Here's a list of some of the things I would like Malpas to sort out:

* Defending set pieces - every player should have a role and know what they are doing. No opposition player should be free in or around the box.

* Teach McGovern how to tackle.

* Tell players to offer movement for throw ins. We are mega crap at this.

* Teach the middle men that when we have the ball one (at least) needs to get forward.

* Defensive line needs to push up more. Defenders should mark their man tighter.

* Team needs more movement and cohesion in general. Every player should be looking to exploit space and give the holder of the ball options.

There's loads of other stuff, but it's all pretty basic. I'm not asking Malpas to teach them how to do Ronaldo stepovers or Ronaldinho flip-flap skills, just work out the basics in training and make the players get the basics right on the day.

Again, I don't disagree with you in where we fall short, but these are all things that I would expect a professional footballer to understand how to do and be able to execute without having to have his hand held by the management team!

Except for McGovern not being able to tackle. If he's not up to it, then it's not the manager's fault. I've seen JPM pay for other sides and he's looked a quality player, but, sadly, he hasn't ever matched that here, even under Sturrock.

Perhaps, in hindsight, he looked good because he was invariably up against Nicholas.
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« Reply #19 on: Monday, March 24, 2008, 21:04:25 »

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MM has a squad full of Sturrock's ex players: I suspect this is a large part of the problem.


and this will be the same problem we have next november when the next swindon manager is stuck with MMs players

Points not valid though, because Sturrock left him behind a decent team.

Usually our managers take over shit squads, not Malpas...
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« Reply #20 on: Monday, March 24, 2008, 21:06:39 »

Some of those short comings have been going on for years, especially movement at throw ins, come on no one was having a go at Wisey or Sturrock about this.

This place (although no where near is as bad as Thisis) is beginning to have it's own "Blame Malpas/Canada" south park theme.
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« Reply #21 on: Monday, March 24, 2008, 21:08:00 »

he has to go imo.the vast majority of town fans are against the bloke now.even those who said to give him time(myself included)have changed their opinions.the players have lost the plot and its just a matter of time until he gets the boot.

booing ifil because he's lost the plot is harsh. but i remember slating him and saying he shouldn't be a pro because of his awful touch and diobolical passing.but wise and poyet turned the lad around, and he continued to flourish under sturrock.as a man marker he is one of the best in the league.

generally i think we have a high proportion of thick idiots following the club. and the abuse players have recieved is nothing new.
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« Reply #22 on: Monday, March 24, 2008, 21:13:15 »

if malpas had the personality of allen, no one would give a fuck.
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« Reply #23 on: Monday, March 24, 2008, 21:13:44 »

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MM has a squad full of Sturrock's ex players: I suspect this is a large part of the problem.


and this will be the same problem we have next november when the next swindon manager is stuck with MMs players

Points not valid though, because Sturrock left him behind a decent team.

Usually our managers take over shit squads, not Malpas...



Hang on a sec though DV, Sturrock may have left a mediocre side, but he left a side that was really firing on all cylinders.   We've struggled for goals/chances for some time now and he never really sorted that out.  Okay so he grinded results out but he never had us playing decent football.

Malpas should be given a year at the very least, and people should start giving him a bit of respect.  This is becoming a little embarrassing, some people (on the thisis site mainly) are really showing themselves up as village idiots.  It's a shame that the yocals are the ones making all the noise.
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« Reply #24 on: Monday, March 24, 2008, 21:17:00 »

I wanted Wise and Sturrock and bloody Andy King to sort all the basic stuff out too - in fact Wise got most of it quite right imo.  They're basic principles so it won't need 3 months to sort out, more like a couple of weeks.

I'm not saying all our problems will be solved by doing this, but come on, if we're more organised we're more likely to get something from a game. That is black and white and if I'm gobbing off then so be it, because quite frankly what's the point of saying we were ok when we are not. We don't need to play like Brazil, but apart from the last 10 minutes we didn't do anything. That is rubbish.

I'm all for giving Malpas space, in fact I don't think he'll even read this. I haven't shouted "Malpas out" at a game once (well not in seriousness , perhaps once in jest when we were winning) , I am not on the guy's back at all. I am just saying what I'd like him to sort out.

If he can't sort this out by the end of the season then our future looks a bit worrying. I might be calling for his head at the end of the season in that case, but I won't at the moment. He needs time yes, but even a fool can see that things aren't improving and they need to. If they do all is good.
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« Reply #25 on: Monday, March 24, 2008, 21:17:38 »

I'm still willing to give malpas time, but i am getting a little worried now. His formation is baffling, and the players dont look motivated anymore.
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« Reply #26 on: Monday, March 24, 2008, 21:36:22 »

His time is up in my opinion, what has he brought to teh club? Burne brought in teh watford two and williams brought in timlin.
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« Reply #27 on: Monday, March 24, 2008, 21:59:35 »

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MM has a squad full of Sturrock's ex players: I suspect this is a large part of the problem.


and this will be the same problem we have next november when the next swindon manager is stuck with MMs players

Points not valid though, because Sturrock left him behind a decent team.

Usually our managers take over shit squads, not Malpas...



Hang on a sec though DV, Sturrock may have left a mediocre side, but he left a side that was really firing on all cylinders.   We've struggled for goals/chances for some time now and he never really sorted that out.  Okay so he grinded results out but he never had us playing decent football.

Malpas should be given a year at the very least, and people should start giving him a bit of respect.  This is becoming a little embarrassing, some people (on the thisis site mainly) are really showing themselves up as village idiots.  It's a shame that the yocals are the ones making all the noise.


to steal a over used cliche, its a results business.

I dont give a flying fuck how we played under Sturrock he did the business we were tough to beat and got results.

Malpas has not carried this forward.
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« Reply #28 on: Monday, March 24, 2008, 22:08:42 »

I suppose that is a personal thing, I love to see entertainment, coming out of the ground after the Carlisle match was a buzz, and that was after a draw.

I hate grinding out results, doesn't really do it for me anymore.  Fed up and going and watching shite, whether we get 0,1 or 3 points.

Long may we have McNamee in the side as I'd pay my entrance fee to watch a player like him week in week out.
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« Reply #29 on: Monday, March 24, 2008, 22:14:04 »

I'd rather have a scrappy 1-0 win than an exciting 2-2 draw....
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