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Reg Smeeton
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« Reply #15 on: Sunday, March 23, 2008, 17:13:16 »

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Where any of those 6 players any good?


 Paul Rideout was good.  Colin Bailie was a cultured player.   Of course Jimmy Allan and Russell Lewis came through, but were from a different era, also Martin Blackler, Charlie Henry and Brian Hughes also played quite regularly and Jimmy Quinn had been snapped up from non league football.

 Hughes I had hopes for as he was a cultured player....just a bit lightweight though.
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« Reply #16 on: Sunday, March 23, 2008, 17:21:56 »

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He would only be cover obviously . Vincent is likely to stay but i think we could do with a young fresh left back .


 What abouit Callum Kennedy?

  If AF's strategy is to use youth players, and have a manager in MM who's happy to try and bring them through by coaching...then fair play.  It should be explained to the fans this is the strategy, because it will require patience. (See John Trollope's reign)


with a bit of patience we could reap the rewards doing the youth team thing, and you would hope the least you would get is 100% commitment which for me, especially in this league, is half the battle.

i think it's something that the fanbase could adhere to but with one major change; we'd have to put a stop to selling all the crown jewels (lukas, mills, tozer) which i'm afraid i canny see happening.
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« Reply #17 on: Sunday, March 23, 2008, 17:40:48 »

Put your mind back many years!!

John Trollope and Terry Wollen were both 17 when they made their debuts for town as full backs, they became the youngest pair of full backs for any side in the league, I think I'm right on that one, if I'm not Reg will put me right.
Youth is always worth a chance if you dont keep them any young player is soon snapped up by premiership sides, just look at the players we've sold in the last few seasons, it makes financial sense for a first division side to experiment with quality youth players.
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« Reply #18 on: Wednesday, March 26, 2008, 09:07:40 »

I was told the other day that there is 10 players out of contract the end of the season, didn't Sturrock give players he thought could play at a higher level a longer deal and those that were only good enough for L1 a 1 year deal.

I'm sure some may have clauses though that entitle them to another year if they have played x games though
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« Reply #19 on: Wednesday, March 26, 2008, 21:59:18 »

What i would give for that number 9 and 10 up front for us this season!!
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« Reply #20 on: Wednesday, March 26, 2008, 22:42:58 »

Everything points to us spending the next few years pushing the youths; the appointment of Malpas (with his Scot U-21 experience), all those youths getting pro-contracts, and even the fact we've been hearing about a 3-year plan to get promoted, instead of just splashing out for promotion.

I'm up for that, as long as we can continue to produce young players of a decent quality. I have no idea about the standards of our younger youth team players. Of course it will require a fair bit of patience. We'd definitely need to give Malpas a proper season to see if he's up to the job of bringing these players through.

General sporting consensus would probably agree that we'd still need a few crucial vertebrae of experienced players, if not an entire backbone. The sort of player which can guarantee a performance and just as importantly, lead on the pitch when things aren't going too well. There can be a huge range of maturity amongst young players (and young people in general), both mentally and physically. There's no point having the best young player in the world if you can't make him play to his potential when it matters.

Generally I'm well for the youth route. It makes sense financially as well. But only if the players are good enough. There's no point of getting stuck in the "They're good because we raised them" mentality. We'll end up stuck in a maddening broken dreams of improvement loop.
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« Reply #21 on: Thursday, March 27, 2008, 00:02:34 »

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Everything points to us spending the next few years pushing the youths; the appointment of Malpas (with his Scot U-21 experience), all those youths getting pro-contracts, and even the fact we've been hearing about a 3-year plan to get promoted, instead of just splashing out for promotion.

I'm up for that, as long as we can continue to produce young players of a decent quality. I have no idea about the standards of our younger youth team players. Of course it will require a fair bit of patience. We'd definitely need to give Malpas a proper season to see if he's up to the job of bringing these players through.

General sporting consensus would probably agree that we'd still need a few crucial vertebrae of experienced players, if not an entire backbone. The sort of player which can guarantee a performance and just as importantly, lead on the pitch when things aren't going too well. There can be a huge range of maturity amongst young players (and young people in general), both mentally and physically. There's no point having the best young player in the world if you can't make him play to his potential when it matters.

Generally I'm well for the youth route. It makes sense financially as well. But only if the players are good enough. There's no point of getting stuck in the "They're good because we raised them" mentality. We'll end up stuck in a maddening broken dreams of improvement loop.


I've never thought of it like that, good point.

It's risky, but something I'd definitely like to see... A bit like Crewe in a way, they've produced some very good youngsters in recent years, made a lot of money out of it too. Although they reinvested absolutely none of it and are now struggling, so maybe a lesson to be learnt there.
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« Reply #22 on: Thursday, March 27, 2008, 00:07:49 »

I think the money allows them to survive on such low crowds Tails.  Not so much not reinvisted as not having anything to reinvest beyond the running costs.
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« Reply #23 on: Thursday, March 27, 2008, 18:37:22 »

Crewe invest the money back into the youth system and running of the club....its how they can avoid going into massive debt on small crowds...its obviously  the sort of model Fitton has in mind, and I guess he sees MM as a sort of Dario Gradi.  He'll be around for 20 years.
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« Reply #24 on: Thursday, March 27, 2008, 20:27:45 »

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He'll be around for 20 years.


Ye gods, don't say that too loud.
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